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I wholeheartedly accept your plaudit of turning this argument into "outing" you for what you are a selfish pig headed internet bully who has scant regard or consideration for the feelings of others.
Attack? Yes it is simply that because in my experience it is the thing bullies dislike most of all. They love to
dish it out
but being cowards who prey upon those they consider to be weaker than themselves simply hate it when the prey retaliates.
Regardless of my explanation of the use of the word gullible you continue to act in the true fashion of a bully and totally disregard what I have said and continue to probe what you perceive as my weak spot.
Attack! I think more of retaliation but if it shows you for being what you are and perhaps offers encouragement to others who either in the past of in the future to withstand your onslaughts I am proud to have made such a stand.
If I may quote your own words: –
"There is
NO
roulette system" (the use of both capitals and bold says so much about you and you end with the following insult: –
… stop being so gullible to MrE’s fantasist nonsense.
Who is attacking who?
This is no way to enter a discussion regardless of the subject.Any reasonably minded person would not approach others in this way and you show yourself for being exactly what I stated at the intro of this post, a pig headed, egotistical bully and I will continue to say it until the moderators and administrators of this forum do something about it.
Billy's Outback Shack
Keep this up bill and you will be poster of the year again.
If only you were 40 years younger mate you could give young ginge the left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right.http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/smiley-face-punching.gif
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
If I may quote your own words: –
"There is
NO
roulette system" (the use of both capitals and bold says so much about you and you end with the following insult: –
… stop being so gullible to MrE’s fantasist nonsense.
Who is attacking who?
This is no way to enter a discussion regardless of the subject.If this was a discussion about Bingo Billion, would I be wrong to say this?
…"There is
NO
bingo system".
I am not going to lie. There is
NO
roulette system that works. The bold/upper case lettering is to ephasise that
FACT
. Roulette and Bingo are
both
games of chance.
If you’ve been playing roulette for many years believing there’s a way of "investing" rather than gambling… Then I think your anger is more frustration about realising you’ve been wrong about roulette for so many years – rather than any words I may have said.
Bye Bye Billion
Value Is EverythingKeep this up bill and you will be poster of the year again.
If only you were 40 years younger mate you could give young ginge the left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right.http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/smiley-face-punching.gif
Value Is EverythingYet again he is dodging the issue when faced with the reality he is rude and simply as all bullies, do not listen.
I have claimed there is an internet etiquette when capitals indicate shouting and bold capitals are beyond normal behaviour and continues to ignore the insults he made and then wonders why he is disliked, by me anyway and I will not speak for others.
Quote: – "I think your anger is more frustration about being wrong about roulette for so many years . . . . "
Yet another assumption without the politeness to ask and for a self confessed figure man dealing in fact he does jump to conclusions as a way of defending the indefensible.
Take this on board and take it quickly, I have never played roulette.
As all pig headed foolish people you would do well to ask first before making the most stupid and ignorant of utterances.
Please is another pleasantry worth trying.
Billy's Outback Shack
Have you seen the front cover of the Racing Post today Billion?
That’ll do my "ego" the World of good.
The bloke with the binoculars and Goodwood hat is a handsome chap(man) don’t you think?
Value Is EverythingYet again he is dodging the issue when faced with the reality he is rude and simply as all bullies, do not listen.
I have claimed there is an internet etiquette when capitals indicate shouting and bold capitals are beyond normal behaviour and continues to ignore the insults he made and then wonders why he is disliked, by me anyway and I will not speak for others.
Quote: – "I think your anger is more frustration about being wrong about roulette for so many years . . . . "
Yet another assumption without the politeness to ask and for a self confessed figure man dealing in fact he does jump to conclusions as a way of defending the indefensible.
Take this on board and take it quickly, I have never played roulette.
As all pig headed foolish people you would do well to ask first before making the most stupid and ignorant of utterances.
Please is another pleasantry worth trying.
Putting words in bold are also a way of
emphasising
a word Billion, putting a word in both capitals and bold is a way of extra emphasising
THE
most important word.
It seems you’re now trying to get me banned because I use bold lettering and capitals and don’t use the word "please" enough.
Please
Billion, laugh at yourself. I have no option but to laugh at myself more often than I care to admit.
Value Is EverythingNothing would give me more pleasure than to see you banned and any like you who continue to behave in an inappropriate way.
Your postings at the very least now read with a little more humility but maybe it is a temporary state whilst your ego re-inflates and you regain your bluster as you search for what you may perceive as an easier quarry and indulge your self image of imagined superiority.
Should you not be banned on the grounds of intimidation, rudeness and general obnoxiousness with lack of consideration towards others I hope you will be recognised for the offensive plebeian you are who is unwilling to listen whilst spouting and misquoting as well as twisting any words in order to suit your argument.
This place was once full of friendly banter and bonhomie but single handed you, yes you, have intimidated and destroyed it and whilst you are allowed to remain here it will continue to degenerate because of your distasteful ways.
Billy's Outback Shack
Quote: – "I think your anger is more frustration about being wrong about roulette for so many years . . . . "
Yet another assumption without the politeness to ask and for a self confessed figure man dealing in fact he does jump to conclusions as a way of defending the indefensible.
There was
no
"assumption"
Billion. I suggest you take time to read what I actually wrote. The first word of the paragraph is vitally important.
"IF"
.
If
you’ve been playing roulette for many years believing there’s a way of "investing" rather than gambling… Then I think your anger is more frustration about realising you’ve been wrong about roulette for so many years – rather than any words I may have said.
The
second
line (and the
only
one you’ve quoted) is
only
on condition that the first line is true. I will make the assumption; that this was a genuine mistake on your part and not just trying to twist my words to "suit your arguement".
If you’ve never played roulette; then you’re lucky I’ve put MrE’s meanderings to right before you started to "invest".
So my job was well done. Value Is EverythingYour postings at the very least now read with a little more humility
Partial succes.
I know sometimes my words/posts can be a little ambiguous.
Please Billion, re-read my posts on these two threads and instead of thinking everything is meant in the worst possible way; consider every word is meant in the best possible meaning imaginable, and you’d get the true meaning of my interjection.I say agian, my words and explanation were meant for your and other TRFer’s benefit. Yes, by all means gamble on roulette, but
never
think of it as an
"investment"
.
Value Is EverythingThis place was once full of friendly banter and bonhomie but single handed you, yes you, have intimidated and destroyed it and whilst you are allowed to remain here it will continue to degenerate because of your distasteful ways.
Or could it be that punters have found other ways to put their views forward? I know I’ve been thinking more recently of going over to a blog and leaving TRF altogether. I know! You could have your wish yet Billion!!
I’ve been trying to keep this place going! Sometimes it seems single-handedly! At least I am talking to you in this thread Billion, and not myself. And there isn’t a (workable) system that hasn’t already been thought of and written about in the last decade of TRF/forums…I don’t think
Systems
failure can all be put down to me.
May be it’s time for it to join us in Daily Lays And Plays?Value Is EverythingThis place was once full of friendly banter and bonhomie but single handed you, yes you, have intimidated and destroyed it and whilst you are allowed to remain here it will continue to degenerate because of your distasteful ways.
Or could it be that punters have found other ways to put their views forward? I know I’ve been thinking more recently of going over to a blog and leaving TRF altogether. I know! You could have your wish yet Billion!!
I’ve been trying to keep this place going! Sometimes it seems single-handedly! At least I am talking to you in this thread Billion, and not myself. And there isn’t a (workable) system that hasn’t already been thought of and written about in the last decade of TRF/forums…I don’t think
Systems
failure can all be put down to me.
May be it’s time for it to join us in Daily Lays And Plays?Your ego recognises no boundaries and this time even you have surprised even myself, you are both laughable and pathetic.
You are on the back foot and obviously attempting to show yourself in a better light and can therefore only be deduced as trepidation for being seen for what you truly are.
Nit picking and probing for any angle in order to maintain what you assume to be the moral high ground and your opinions will never again be recognised or valued by those having read your pontificating in the same way again and know you now for what you are.
Such wavering is simply a way to re-build some self esteem but for many you are washed up, a has been seen to dodge the true issues and known for diverting criticism rather than accept your exposure as an oppressor.
The day for me cannot come soon enough for you to leave or is this yet again another diversion to boost your flagging ego.
Billy's Outback Shack
Your daily lays and plays thread is extremely systematic ginge. You go through a ritual with the selection process of class of race, going, trainer form, distance, sectionals, pace, weight, rating, etc, etc then formulate your percentage chance and bet the value. So perhaps your thread should be moved to here ward 7.
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Your daily lays and plays thread is extremely systematic ginge. You go through a ritual with the selection process of class of race, going, trainer form, distance, sectionals, pace, weight, rating, etc, etc then formulate your percentage chance and bet the value. So perhaps your thread should be moved to here ward 7.
Good points Nathan, my DLAP thread is "systematic" without being a "system". I’d be glad to move it to ward 7. Whichever way you look at it, all three "Tipping And Research" sections don’t seem as big as they once were and could be grouped together in one imo…
Then again, I don’t really think I’d be welcomed here, do you?
Value Is EverythingThis place was once full of friendly banter and bonhomie but single handed you, yes you, have intimidated and destroyed it and whilst you are allowed to remain here it will continue to degenerate because of your distasteful ways.
Or could it be that punters have found other ways to put their views forward? I know I’ve been thinking more recently of going over to a blog and leaving TRF altogether. I know! You could have your wish yet Billion!!
I’ve been trying to keep this place going! Sometimes it seems single-handedly! At least I am talking to you in this thread Billion, and not myself. And there isn’t a (workable) system that hasn’t already been thought of and written about in the last decade of TRF/forums…I don’t think
Systems
failure can all be put down to me.
May be it’s time for it to join us in Daily Lays And Plays?Your ego recognises no boundaries and this time even you have surprised even myself, you are both laughable and pathetic.
You are on the back foot and obviously attempting to show yourself in a better light and can therefore only be deduced as trepidation for being seen for what you truly are.
Nit picking and probing for any angle in order to maintain what you assume to be the moral high ground and your opinions will never again be recognised or valued by those having read your pontificating in the same way again and know you now for what you are.
Such wavering is simply a way to re-build some self esteem but for many you are washed up, a has been seen to dodge the true issues and known for diverting criticism rather than accept your exposure as an oppressor.
The day for me cannot come soon enough for you to leave or is this yet again another diversion to boost your flagging ego.
Oh Billion, WTF have I done to irritate you now? Do you ever laugh at anything? The above did have some serious points, but also laughing at myself and my (as you see it) "ego".
Got my ugly mug on the front of the Racing Post today, so my ego/self esteem is doing just fine. Thanks for your concern.
What "wavering and oppressing, nit picking and probing", what "diversion"? I’m trembling in "trepidation".
You wanted "humility", I gave you humility. But you obviously see showing it as a weakness.
There is no "moral high ground" between us Billion. I’ve got nothing agaist you what so ever. Whenever you’re not attacking me you’re a really nice chap, don’t know why but even though you apparently detest me – I quite like you.
Value Is EverythingYou should send the front page of the Racing Post along with your cv to Timeform Ginge then to can tell all the racing fraternity on ATR alongside Matt Chapman that Roulette is the same as bingo.
Imaging that bill your two best friends on ATR.By the way Roulette and Bingo are nothing like eachother at bingo and billion can vouch for me as he attends regularly wearing his mini skirt sometimes one of his balls falls out
At bingo you pay an entrance fee and dab the dabber on the number when the number is called out the odds are heavily in the favour of the house who like the FOTB get a fixed percentage profit and cant lose. Roulette the odds favour the house slightly when playing red or black, with a staking system and a stop loss you can beunlucky
not to walk away without a profit. imo.
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
It is true roulette odds favour the house much less than they do in bingo Nathan, but they still do favour the house (as you say) slightly and no system can get away from that fact. Yes, it is such a small take out that a short time at the table will probably result in winning money. But it is like if backing every long odds-on shot in horse racing – likely to win most times, but eventually you’ll have the day that tilts it in the bookies/house’s favour. Roulette is a game of luck and sooner or later a punter’s luck will run out; whether a system is used or not.
Value Is Everything
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I’ve been trying to keep this place going! Sometimes it seems single-handedly! At least I am talking to you in this thread Billion, and not myself. 
And there isn’t a (workable) system that hasn’t already been thought of and written about in the last decade of TRF/forums…
May be it’s time for it to join us in Daily Lays And Plays?
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