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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Seeing that the Greens are polling pretty much neck-and-neck with Labour and the Conservatives these days, I believe it’s time for their own thread as we build towards the next general election, scheduled for 2029.

    I posted in the Farage thread yesterday two interviews with Nick Robinson, one from the frog-faced fascist himself and one from Zack Polanski, leader of the Greens; anyone who listened objectively to the leaders of the two parties most likely to upset the old Labour-Tory duopoly must surely have noticed the difference in maturity and intelligence between the two men.

    Here is a keynote speech Polanski gave earlier this week (pity about the poor sound quality in the Q&A session):

    Again: coherent, measured and logical. No histrionics, no grandstanding, simply facts.

    Now, I know all the RWNJ are going to start posting that Green economics are “the stuff of fairytales” or “pie in the sky” (amazing how everyone becomes an instant economic expert at such times), but here’s the real fairytale:

    The UK’s wealth gap has grown by 50% in eight years – and poses a strategic risk to the nation

    The current neoliberal model serves the few. It makes the many less well off both financially and physically. It needs to change.

    #1760701
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    The Green Party are a viable alternative to both Labour and Conservatives. We will be OK if we do NOT elect Reform or Conservatives at the next election.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Err I’d say there manifesto is a bit out there …

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

    #1760705
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    They haven’t published their 2029 manifesto yet, so how can it be “a bit out there”? 🤔

    #1760708
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Have a glance at some previous ones …

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

    #1760709
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    I have done – I vote for them.

    How are previous manifestos relevant to a future election? 🤔

    A manifesto is drawn up to be relevant to the circumstances at that moment in time – the world in 2029 will be very different to that in 2024 and all parties’ manifestos should reflect that.

    #1760714
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    Well we all know Reform’s manifesto for 2029:

    (1l The UK will no longer follow International Law

    (2) We will spend £2 billion to set up an ICE type agency to eliminate immigrants.

    (3) We will abolished the Employment Protection Act, so companies can hire and fire at will.

    They will allege that all the above will protect the NHS when in reality with immigrants gone it will destroy it. Free health care will be abolished; don’t get ill if you are poor! The NHS will be privatised and Anerican companies will be brought in charging a fortune.

    You have been warned! :good:

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    Green’s economics?

    For the birds.

    There you go, analysis done :good:

    #1760720
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    Analysis is the detailed examination, study, or breaking down of complex information, subjects, or substances into smaller parts to understand their nature, function, and relationships.

    The phrase you’re looking for is ‘evidence and fact free assertion’.

    #1760721
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    “For the birds.”

    Yay!!! We have a winner!!!

    🎉 🎊 🎉

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    I have voted Green in the last few elections if there was a candidate in my constituency. The candidate usually seemed Ok so why not.

    Many don’t like them classing them as anti-car. They moan about being in a constant traffic jam but when a party has an idea about taking cars off the road they moan then.

    A viable option if you love your grandkids and wouldn’t want them living in a climate that could see them suffering when they themselves reach old age.

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    I’ve voted Green in local elections for many years and on one occasion in a general election, though as my MP is now the estimable Rachel Maskell I’ll be voting Labour as long as she remains the candidate.

    Still unsure about Polanski though I’m warming to him a bit. I don’t care for the term ‘populist’ whether that’s applied to left or right and if he dials back a bit on the urge to ‘appeal’ as I think he will, and develops a measured, sober strategy going forward to the next election I think the Greens will maintain their momemtum and draw in disaffected ‘soft left’ Labour and Liberal voters.

    As ever with politicians: expect nothing but hope for something.

    #1760808
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    Many don’t like them classing them as anti-car. They moan about being in a constant traffic jam but when a party has an idea about taking cars off the road they moan then.

    This is one problem the Greens are going to have. What they say on the environment is correct but it’s not what people want to hear.

    I too dislike the word ‘populist’, it seems to have become a synonym for people who spout simple ‘solutions’ to complex problems. Unfortunately it cuts through even though much of said spouting is, to borrow a phrase, ‘for the birds’ because it’s what people want to hear.

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    Kent County Council Cliftonville division by-election count and result – Greens take the vote

    Okay, it’s only a local council by-election, but can you imagine how much coverage this would have got had Reform gone from fourth to first?

    The public are obviously realising just how much of a mistake voting in Reform for Kent County Council has been.

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    Greens Scottish candidate says we want to abolish prisions

    Yep that’s another great idea are these people and their supporters serious come on gladders or do you approve of this?

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    Are Reform even remotely serious? The voters of Kent already appear to be showing buyers’ remorse.

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    Do you agree that prisons should be closed gladders? Off to watch the boxing so you have plenty of time to ring Dave and see what he thinks. Good luck if you’ve had a bet at aintree fingers crossed all return safe and well

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