December 9, 2004 at 11:46 #1557
In an effort to occupy my so called mind, I thought it would be a laugh to see if/how Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£400 can be turned into Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£10,000.
Here’s the method:
1) Lots of reasonably priced selections per day;
2) STOP betting for the day when TWO of the selections have won;
3) Use 1/2%, 1%, 1 1/2%, 2%, 2 1/2 %, 3%, etc staking.
Revert back to 1/2% after each winner and recalculate stakes at the beginning of each day to the nearest 10p.
Here are the first day’s selections:
Huntingdon <br>12.30 Majlis <br>1.00 Lalagune <br>1.30 Buck Whaley <br>2.00 Just Jolly <br>2.30 Kohinor <br>3.00 Wild Power <br>3.30 Alright Now M’lad
Taunton <br>12.50 Nuit Sombre <br>1.20 Imperial Rocket <br>1.50 Lough Rynn <br>2.20 Victory Gunner <br>2.50 Bill Owen
Ludlow <br>12.40 Ambersong <br>1.10 Robber Baron <br>2.10 Senna Da Silva <br>2.40 Prince Highlight <br>3.10 The Hairy Lemon <br>3.40 Fizzywiz
Use the selections in time order – H12.30, L12.40, T12.50, etc. instead of keeping the meetings separate.
Today’s starting stake will be Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£2.
And one final rule – have fun! :biggrin:December 9, 2004 at 12:16 #56124dave jayMember
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This looks like good fun Dave, I’m going to enjoy watching this. Your staking plan is a bit of a demon, I like that too.
I reckon you could do this … :biggrin:December 9, 2004 at 12:28 #56126MatronParticipant
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Good luck Dave.
We will all expect a drink once your reach that 10,000.00.
Regards- Matron<br>:cool:December 9, 2004 at 13:03 #56127
Best of luck, Dave
Are you sure it’s not a way to turn Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£10,000 into Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£400? (Only a joke). Looks great fun, and I will watch your progress with interest.December 9, 2004 at 13:27 #56132
We sometimes get a bit too serious with our efforts to beat the bookies by a shilling or two, this looks like it’s gonna be fun – very best of luck!
PS Where’s the TRF (Systems Workshop ) bash if this comes off? :biggrin:December 10, 2004 at 12:21 #56133
Thanks for the good wishes guys – it looks like I’ll have to start doing this with real money!
Mind you with a losing run of 11 yesterday I would have been starting to sh*t myself somewhat, especially if the stakes were at 1% instead of 1/2% – having bet half the bank after 10 losing bets would not be good for my health.
I tell you what, if this makes it to Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£2000 (5 x starting bank) then I’ll start doing this for real, how about that? I may stick to just one winner per day though – an thoughts?
Anyway, yesterday’s results look like this:
L2, W4@7/2 = 14-2 = +12
L2, L4, L6, L8, L10, L12, L14, L16, L18, L20, L22, W 24@15/2 = 180-132 = +Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£48
Yesterday’s total = +Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£60 <br>Bank = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£460
Cheltenham <br>12.00 Maljimar <br>12.35 Out The Black <br>1.10 Team Tassel <br>1.45 French Executive <br>2.20 King Revo <br>2.55 Joly Bey <br>3.30 You’re Special
Doncaster <br>1.00 Down The Stretch <br>1.35 Blaise Wood <br>2.45 Kind Sir <br>3.20 Dargaville
Wolverhampton <br>12.50 Hammer Of THe Gods <br>1.25 Rancho Cucamonga <br>1.55 Bluff <br>2.30 City Zone <br>3.05 Kali <br>3.40 Accendere <br>4.10 Creskeld <br>4.40 King Flyer
Starting stake = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£2.30
Sorry these are a bit late folks but I think the site was down this morning.December 10, 2004 at 20:16 #56134
We’re on the way – another winning day Dave. :biggrin:
Err am I right in thinking that if we dont get a winner on 1 day we could be potless? :oDecember 11, 2004 at 12:08 #56135
I guess that’s why they call this gambling Snowy – scare yourself silly every day just in the pursuit of a few thousand pounds … what was I thinking? … oh, I know …
SHOW ME THE MONEY! ;)
L2.3, L4.6, L6.9, L9.2, L11.5, L13.8, L16.1, L18.4, L20.7, W23@9/2 = 103.5 – 103.5 = +/-Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£0
W2.3@8/1 = +Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£18.40
Yesterday’s toal = +Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£18.40 <br>Bank = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£478.40
Yes, that’s right folks – nine losing bets just to get back where we started … and that’s if we don’t take into account any commission. Mind you the prices available on the exchanges should more than make up for any fees as I’m using the SP’s to make things back-checkable here.
Southwell <br>11.30 Stellite <br>12.00 Keepers Knight <br>12.30 Fasylitaor <br>1.05 Mossmann Gorge <br>1.40 Boris The Spider <br>2.10 Bond Moonlight <br>2.45 Up Tempo <br>3.20 Headland
Lingfield <br>12.10 Earl’s Kitchen <br>12.45 Glanamana <br>1.20 Ken Scott <br>1.55 Tribal Venture <br>2.30 New Entic <br>3.05 Jalpreuil Malta
Cheltenham <br>12.55 Bonus Bridge <br>1.30 Trouble At Bay <br>2.05 Control Man <br>2.40 Thisthatandtother <br>3.15 Inglis Drever <br>3.45 Brewster
Doncaster <br>12.40 Darkshape <br>1.45 Once Seen <br>2.20 Kelrev <br>2.55 Personal Assurance <br>3.30 Mobasher
Starting stake = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£2.40
If there aren’t two winners in that lot I’ll put tonight’s Wolverhampton selections up later.December 11, 2004 at 13:28 #56136kerslyMember
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Interesting thread watching to see how it develops.<br>Good Luck<br>kerslyDecember 11, 2004 at 14:09 #56137
Thanks Kersly – I think I’ll need some of that luck before too long!
Another winning day already so I’ll update the results/bank as Monday morning is bound to be as hectic as usual.
L2.4, L4.8, L7.2, L9.6, L12, L14.4, W16.8@13/2 = 109.2 – 50.4 = +Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£58.80
n/r, W2.4@5/1 = +Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£12
Saturday’s total = +Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£70.80 <br>Bank = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£549.20December 11, 2004 at 16:16 #56138dave jayMember
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This is great … :biggrin:December 11, 2004 at 17:18 #56139
Gambling? I was recommended to this thread by my stockbroker who assured me this was a blue chip investment!December 12, 2004 at 19:33 #56140
Dave, I’ve been mulling over this system for a few days because it didn’t seem right when I first looked at it. Your experiences on the first day were no suprise when I gave it some thought. I hate to dampen anyone’s enthusiasm, but systems that rely on increasing stakes won’t work unless you are a brilliant tipster. The mathematics are working against you and in favour of our old adversary, the bookmaker.
On my reckoning, if you are increasing stakes by 0.5 per cent, a losing run of 20 will break the bank. If it was 1%, a losing run of 14 would do it.
At average odds of 5/1 ( a probabilty of 0.167), there is a 2.4% chance of hitting such a losing run. So, on average for every 42 times you start the system, you can expect to lose your bank once. Reducing the average odds extends this period. At 4/1 (0.20), it’s a 1.1 % chance ( about 1 in 90), and at 3/1 it’s about 1 in 300. The end result is always the same. The only way to beat it is to keep your average odds very low and you may live long enough to avoid losing your bank, but if you pass the system on to your descendants they are almost certain to lose it.
If you want some evidence of the frequency of long losing runs, have a look at the RP tipster’s challenge. There are several tipsters with LLRs into the teens out of only 30 or so naps. The worst one, ironically enough, is now up to 19, and that is down to Mitch Lewis who won the RP tipster’s challenge out of thousands of entrants.December 13, 2004 at 00:53 #56141RoboticaMember
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This will brighten up the thread leading to Christmas, good luck.
There is no money involved with this as Dave has already stated, and I think the main reason behind it all was……HAVE FUN!!!
Your figures though are as usual probably spot on.December 13, 2004 at 09:02 #56142
Yes. of course, have fun. I just didn’t want anyone thinking there might be easy money around.
You will get no humbug from me, especially at this time of year.:)
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