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  • #503091
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    He’d get in the 3m handicap though surely.

    Talking of Mcmanus plots though,

    Very few poor jumpers have enough in hand of the handicapper to win at the Festival, that’s if (big IF) they get round.

    Wichita Lineman

    ..Watch out for

    Eastlake

    in the Grand Annual, he’s huge at 16/1 imo.

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    Good shout TAPK, think Eastlake has a good chance at Cheltenham. 16/1 looks big, although am not certain what distance he’ll end up going for. Not beholden himself and possibly dependent on what JP has in each race (Mr Mole now Grand Annual favourite and previous winner Alderwood only 20/1). So will wait for NRNB.

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    Wichita Lineman

    ..Watch out for

    Eastlake

    in the Grand Annual, he’s huge at 16/1 imo.

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    Good shout TAPK, think Eastlake has a good chance at Cheltenham. 16/1 looks big, although am not certain what distance he’ll end up going for. Not beholden himself and possibly dependent on what JP has in each race (Mr Mole now Grand Annual favourite and previous winner Alderwood only 20/1). So will wait for NRNB.

    Anyone who has been keeping an eye on Irish beginners chases this season will know JP has a pair of horses likely to be very well handicapped when they get an entry. It’s possible one of them won’t even get a run he’ll be that well handicapped.

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    Tommy, any word on Ned Buntline, he’d be my third JP horse for The Grand Annual? I’d actually have him well up there too, should have been closer last year, but thought Carberry overdid the "waiting game" theatrics.

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    Backed Ned last year Bobby, jumping let him down. For a big horse he’s not the most fluent but I’d be willing to give him another chance.

    Last I heard he had a wind op during the summer and I think he had an entry in the Dan Moore at Fairyhouse, which obviously he didn’t take up. He’s only two pounds higher than when second in the race last year, and if the wind op has had the desired effect I expect he’ll be aimed at the race again.

    At this rate JP could run his own Grand Annual at Martinstown!

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    JP puts loads into the industry spreading from top yards right through to beginner stables and without him the National Hunt scene would be very weakend and his massive landed gambles from no bets on good things at Cheltenham to large ones at Aintree on the previous failures funds the ongoing season.
    We punters just have to catch it right occasionally, is Johnjo starting to fire ?, maybe waiting. :D

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    I suspect the only one who knows when Tap Night is likely to do anything is Tap Night. Equine shrink territory methinks!

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    Strange that, he (Eastlake) wasn’t in BET365’s book for the grand annual, so i emailed them and asked for a price, they then introduced him at 16/1, i thought that was a bit short so have’nt taken any of it. He was 20/1 last year and soundly beaten, i was really taken by his run at Ascot.

    I gave him a good word for The Grand Annual last week Strawbear, totally with you (again), he was one of the standout horses last weekend. I wouldn’t be put off by the 16’s, he looks ready to land a decent prize, and crucially for The Grand Annual, could go there this year 7lbs lower.

    I had wanted to see him step up this year after his run in The Topham, but the minimum should be ideal based on that Ascot run. I’d already bet the JP owned Mr Mole for The Grand Annual, but since that Ascot run, Eastlake looks the much more likely.

    Eastlake has just the one entry at the festival – The Grand Annual, now available at a much more realistic 25/1.

    And, as this is a thread about Tap Night, out this weekend over 3m, and has several entries at the festival, Are the brakes finally coming off :? or is the horse a dodgepot pig rag ?

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    A dodgepot pig rag

    #751730
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    AP was on Lost Legend.
    Lost Legend now non-runner.
    Will AP now switch to Tap Night? :lol:

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    AP was on Lost Legend.
    Lost Legend now non-runner.
    Will AP now switch to Tap Night? :lol:

    He may get the fingers down the throat if he is going to get on.

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    What a boy this lad is

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    They are changing the horse’s name to Tap For Rupert :)

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Does a horses mark remain the same after an unseat?

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    Does a horses mark remain the same after an unseat?

    Depends how far out the unseat happened Jibsa.

    If some way from the finish (like Tap Night at Kempton) it’s too far out to say where he was likely to finish; so will more than likely stay the same.

    If a horse looks like it is going to win at the last and unseats, then it’s likely to go up the amount the handicapper believes it would’ve won by.

    If well beaten at the time of unseating at the last (or second last) then its handicap mark is likely to be reduced.

    Interestingly, Easter Day looked to be going very well three out at Cheltenham when falling, was going much better than the eventual winner Annacotty at the time. Yet Easter Day remained on the same mark for the Betbright.

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