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Broken soul beaten 50+ lengths now, worrying for melon again
Shocking that a horse in the mid-150s should be beaten so easily.
People crabbing the melon form, I mean what more can you do than win? Win by fifty lengths?
The fact that the trainer, who has such a great record in this race in recent years, is bullish on the horse is far more relevant than whether horses he beat are getting beat.
People crabbing the melon form, I mean what more can you do than win? Win by fifty lengths?
The fact that the trainer, who has such a great record in this race in recent years, is bullish on the horse is far more relevant than whether horses he beat are getting beat.
sometimes you need to have something to go on other than trainers being bullish, tizzard was bullish about alary, hendo was bullish about CP, mullins was bullish about riven light.
When the horse who was second in melons race keeps getting blasted you have to question how easily he really did win, how much did he really have left..remember a horse whos true rating is 130 will always make 100 horses look like mules…
I get that your balls deep on melon and thats why you cant see anyone elses opinion
People crabbing the melon form, I mean what more can you do than win? Win by fifty lengths?
The fact that the trainer, who has such a great record in this race in recent years, is bullish on the horse is far more relevant than whether horses he beat are getting beat.
sometimes you need to have something to go on other than trainers being bullish, tizzard was bullish about alary, hendo was bullish about CP, mullins was bullish about riven light.
When the horse who was second in melons race keeps getting blasted you have to question how easily he really did win, how much did he really have left..remember a horse whos true rating is 130 will always make 100 horses look like mules…
I get that your balls deep on melon and thats why you cant see anyone elses opinion
Your posts are disparaging and patronising. I’m hardly “balls deep” on melon, I’ve had one bet on the race £50 on melon at 4-1 NRNB.
I refer you to my earlier comment about how can he do much more than win easily which he did
maybe you’re too obsessed about form?
People crabbing the melon form, I mean what more can you do than win? Win by fifty lengths?
The fact that the trainer, who has such a great record in this race in recent years, is bullish on the horse is far more relevant than whether horses he beat are getting beat.
sometimes you need to have something to go on other than trainers being bullish, tizzard was bullish about alary, hendo was bullish about CP, mullins was bullish about riven light.
When the horse who was second in melons race keeps getting blasted you have to question how easily he really did win, how much did he really have left..remember a horse whos true rating is 130 will always make 100 horses look like mules…
I get that your balls deep on melon and thats why you cant see anyone elses opinion
Your posts are disparaging and patronising. I’m hardly “balls deep” on melon, I’ve had one bet on the race £50 on melon at 4-1 NRNB.
I refer you to my earlier comment about how can he do much more than win easily which he did
maybe you’re too obsessed about form?
your blind to the facts and that makes me patronising?? just earlier you crabbed UKWIMH as bad value at 11/8 and his form is on another level in that race…… but you think at 4/1 melon is rock solid good value
This game is all about form its what you hedge your bets on if you go on potential, or owner trainer comments etc you lose, its as simple as that
And ive just stated the point on how easily he won, he was racing poor horses, a horse rated 170 will make 150 (decent horses) look like nothing and that COULD just be the case here, (melon or the other horses are not 170-150 horses )if all of the other horses in melons race are as bad as the form tells us, his win was far less impressive as you think
I must say and ive said it to you 10 times now, its becoming a bit lf a lost cause, i have no issue with melon nor do i like melon, hes a price on a board, his form dosent stack up to ANYTHING at this point hed have aswell not run in the maiden…… im not saying he cannot win or that he isnt a future superstar but the odds are against him as of now and taking 7/2 in the hottest novice race in the nh calendar is flat out insanity
Tired of debating this with brain dead morons who don’t understand that 4-1 is a lot bigger than 11/8, and slag off people who have a different approach to their own.
good luck with your bets this week I hope your lay of melon comes through for you but i’ll be staying away from this forum if I can help it.
too many prats on here I’ve noticed of late who think they’re borderline geniuses just because they have an opinion about horse racing.
At the end of the day I come here to debate some horses running around a field hundreds of miles away from where I live, it’s crazy however you look at it.
I’ll just the watch the racing this week on ITV and stay away from the forums and cross my fingers for a good result.
And btw I didn’t say it was rock solid value at 4-1, I just said I had a bet on it
Maybe I don’t take it as seriously as you clearly do.
Take a chill pill or smoke a spliff is my recommendation, you clearly need to relax.
I think we all just want it to start now.
Re Melon, I see both sides the coin. Beaten nothing and done very little, but is trained by a man with a stranglehold on this race in recent years who is bullish about his chances. Mullins is not like Nichols for example who is bullish about every horse, so his opinion, in my opinion, has to be respected.
I am not a Melon fan but stuck £20 on Skybet as part of their money back first race offer. If I am wrong about Melon then the £100 return will just about cover what I have staked on the race, if I am right then I get my money back.
Tired of debating this with brain dead morons who don’t understand that 4-1 is a lot bigger than 11/8, and slag off people who have a different approach to their own.
good luck with your bets this week I hope your melon comes through for you but i’ll be staying away from this forum if I can help it.
too many prats on here I’ve noticed of late who think they’re borderline geniuses just because they have an opinion about horse racing.
At the end of the day I come here to debate some horses running around a field hundreds of miles away from where I live, it’s crazy however you look at it.
I’ll just the watch the racing this week on ITV and stay away from the forums and cross my fingers for a good result.
From this brain dead moron,Good luck with your bets
I think we all just want it to start now.
Re Melon, I see both sides the coin. Beaten nothing and done very little, but is trained by a man with a stranglehold on this race in recent years who is bullish about his chances. Mullins is not like Nichols for example who is bullish about every horse, so his opinion, in my opinion, has to be respected.
I am not a Melon fan but stuck £20 on Skybet as part of their money back first race offer. If I am wrong about Melon then the £100 return will just about cover what I have staked on the race, if I am right then I get my money back.
exactly that was my point, and you’ve made it far more eloquently than I did.
Mullins being confident seems far more relevant than Nigel Twiston-Davies, who is bullish on every one of his runners, being confident.
But according to some people Mullins being confident is totally irrelevant as well because it’s all about burying your head in a form book and that’s the only way to win at the festival. Which is fair enough but please don’t slag off people who happen to take a different approach.
Of course all of Mullins previous winners in this race all had outstanding form and none of them were backed because what they could achieve
anyway I’ve already broken my rule about not posting on here for a while, that didn’t last long
I see both sides of the arguement and I tend to agree with ham when it comes to experienced horses but when it comes to Novice Hurdlers its always harder to get a feel for the form. The prime example is the Albert Bartlett situation; West Approach wins the race on form and is 10lbs better than any other horse in the field yet on 3 different occasions he hasn’t been able to get in front of Wholestone.
I agree with ham when it comes to The World Hurdle but I reckon thejudge1 has a point with The Supreme. We really don’t know anything about Melon other than a soundbite from his trainer that he is far superior to 3 other runners in the race, 1 of whom has good grade 1 form. The Bunk Off Early form in many ways is better than the Ballyandy form, despite the ratings, so if Mullins is bullish on Melon then it has to count for something. Does that mean 7/2 is a good price? Probably not as he has everything to prove; we’ll find out on Tuesday, I suppose
At no point did i take anything too seriously lol i dont care what you have bet and i also dont care what you win or lose lol nor do you care about the same with me
I gave an opinion that you did not like
The only person slagging people off there was you i never said a negative word about you or you backing melon and i also said you might be right for backing melon
You my friend are the one whos taking it all too seriously
I see both sides of the arguement and I tend to agree with ham when it comes to experienced horses but when it comes to Novice Hurdlers its always harder to get a feel for the form. The prime example is the Albert Bartlett situation; West Approach wins the race on form and is 10lbs better than any other horse in the field yet on 3 different occasions he hasn’t been able to get in front of Wholestone.
I agree with ham when it comes to The World Hurdle but I reckon thejudge1 has a point with The Supreme. We really don’t know anything about Melon other than a soundbite from his trainer that he is far superior to 3 other runners in the race, 1 of whom has good grade 1 form. The Bunk Off Early form in many ways is better than the Ballyandy form, despite the ratings, so if Mullins is bullish on Melon then it has to count for something. Does that mean 7/2 is a good price? Probably not as he has everything to prove; we’ll find out on Tuesday, I suppose
I can see everyones point of view not just my own, i can only say what i see and people can say do the same
Ill be wrong more than im right
If melon wins by half the track then ill take the positive that theres been a really good novice appear, simple as that
Backed Bunk Off Early and Ballyandy both 25s and 33s NRNB for Supreme last weekend. Makes the anticipation that much sweeter!
Not sure if Bunk Off Early turns up. Maybe kept back for aintree and punchestown. Great price tho if he makes it. Ballyandy wins nothing
He turns up alright. Bye Moon Racer. Bye Neon Wolf.
Its a fair cop JJM. Bunk off Early looked like Aintree material to me. You’ve got a nice price now tho so good luck with that. I’m possibly the only poster that gives Crack Mome a squeak. Your gonna see a different horse at Cheltenham than the 1 that got beat in the Moscow Flyer. IMO,i think he’s the Mullinns 2nd string. Not long now till we get our outcome #no gloating
I have to agree that Melon is a real machine and he might even be a classy Flat horse in my opinion. But looking back at his Leopardstown debut you must admit that he jumped very poorly throughout. He hit the 5th flight very hard was low at the 6th and at the 7th and also stumbled a bit at the last. However the race was run very fast and he is entitled to come on a lot for the run. But, don’t forget, that was just a maiden hurdle!
Mullins seems to be very bullish about what the horse shows at home and obviously you have to trust him a bit, if he is that positive.
The horse I like though is High Bridge EW. He was 6th in last year’s Bumper and has solid novice form in three starts so far, even on faster ground. Only problem is that I’m not Alex Ferguson’s biggest supporter, but for this year I’d just like to go against Willie Mullins in the first race of the Festival.Backed Bunk Off Early and Ballyandy both 25s and 33s NRNB for Supreme last weekend. Makes the anticipation that much sweeter!
Not sure if Bunk Off Early turns up. Maybe kept back for aintree and punchestown. Great price tho if he makes it. Ballyandy wins nothing
He turns up alright. Bye Moon Racer. Bye Neon Wolf.
Its a fair cop JJM. Bunk off Early looked like Aintree material to me. You’ve got a nice price now tho so good luck with that. I’m possibly the only poster that gives Crack Mome a squeak. Your gonna see a different horse at Cheltenham than the 1 that got beat in the Moscow Flyer. IMO,i think he’s the Mullinns 2nd string. Not long now till we get our outcome #no gloating
You’re not alone Jaymo, I put Crack Mome up back early in February, before his last
fence blunder at Punchestown. I took the 12s before that race, he drifted after it, and
although it didn’t quite go to plan, I still think he’s decent so I’ve also taken the 16s,
which is still on offer with Bet365. I think he has a e/w shout.
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