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    FinalFurlong91
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    I’m inclined to agree HDLG

    But at the same time home by the Lee doesnt strike me as the type to win by far

    The 2nd and 3rd completely muddy the form

    As a flooring porter backer I am definitely concerned though at the same time the only race he actually won last season was at Cheltenham and Cromwell is in terrible form 1 win from 45 runners in the last two weeks

    #1628659
    Mike007
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    Cromwell said his horse didn’t set fast fractions today and will come on for the run. As others have said as well, it’s about one race again.

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    Avatar photoWilts
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    Well, i couldnt resist the 8s on offer for FP; also had a tickle on my old fav, Paisley Park.

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    Mooching around looking for an ew bet in this and missed the prices on Teahupoo and Home By The Lee, so looking a bit further down the list.

    I’d been looking at Saint Sam at the end of last season and wondering if he’d go back over hurdles (not being big enough to afford any mistakes over fences and having been a fairly neat hurdler) and up in trip (given his breeding). This is what was said about him in last season’s stable tour:

    “He ran a cracker in the Fred Winter, just beaten by Jeff Kidder. We kept him going when we bought him from France which isn’t what we usually do. He’s not the biggest horse in the world but we could start over fences as trying to win a staying hurdle with a five-year-old might be difficult.”

    This season’s tour:
    “He’s an interesting type. He’s very keen over his fences and he isn’t the biggest horse in the world. Going back over hurdles is an option. Even though he’s a keen sort, I wouldn’t mind trying him over longer trip and trying to get him to settle under a quieter ride.”

    Kind of fits the odds ‘n’ sods profile of this race and he’s out on Saturday over the intermediate trip. I’ve had an ew go at 40s for the Stayers. It may well turn out to be a dopey bet- he was fairly headstrong as a juvenile too and backing a horse for the Stayers that is declared with a hood for reappearance over half a mile shorter may not be the brightest idea; and I’ve done this bet before with Bapaume who could only manage 4th on the day. Given that the fragile Klassical Dream has a “niggle” …hmmm…perhaps the trainer is trying to settle a boy racer peg into relaxed 3 miler’s hole. Also his old nemesis Jeff Kidder could wallop him on Saturday or “bag of hammers” Floueur could find his niche in the same race. We shall see.

    On another note, I see Haute Estime and O’Toole both have handicap hurdle entries coming up. Bardenstown Lad I thought would fall into the “failed chaser -> staying hurdler” bracket but he’s got another chase entry I see, mark management/protection for both codes perhaps.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    I’m with Green in going to be playing 1 or 2 at bigger prices , PP and champ couldn’t win last year and another older isn’t going to help them , Flooring will be cherry ripe but I just wasn’t impressed last time , I just wonder if really can win another , i reckon they may well yet be a young horse to enter the fray , disappointing run from Henderson’s horse at Donny yesterday

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    Mike007
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    Flooring Porter would be smiling if able to read some of these comments and thinking “go on you mug punters, bet anything you want, I’ll be ready to roll again March.”

    :o)

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    Agree Mike. Even though I do like the chances of Home By The Lee, I topped up my bet on Flooring Porter earlier as well. I think one of those two will win it.

    Flooring Porter is owned by a syndicate. I think it is all about one day for them and Cromwell will have him spot on.

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    “Flooring Porter is owned by a syndicate. I think it is all about one day for them and Cromwell will have him spot on.”

    Yep, my thoughts entirely. Indirectly, i know someone who ‘got the nod’ for FP before the big priced win at Chelt in 2021. I was on at 16s myself.
    FP connections are your typical syndicate, who, let’s just say, like a value punt. Nuff said :whistle:

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    First Street @ 33’s

    I think something could pop out the woodwork still for this. Got a bit of a thing for this horse so had a speculative bet on him for this.

    I think 33’s is a bit short myself considering where he is a stone lower than last years winner and unproven at the trip.

    Got to win well today really to have any chance of even turning up and would have to improve another chunk even if he did to have a chance. So a long odds on shot the ticket will be flying in the bin this afternoon.

    Quite glad i was restricted to 30% of my bet after posting that now.

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Run For Oscar at 50s. The stable has been known to set one up for a race; weak renewal; stamina assured.

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    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    What would be in Willie’s mind entering Chacun Pour Soi? The horse has never run beyond 2m2f – even that was before he went to Closutton: 2m1f his max winning trip and he has never run over hurdles for the yard.

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    Maybe from a class viewpoint but stamina issues would be huge, especially in this race where Flooring Porter won’t hang around

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    I’ve been quite impressed with Teahupoo, and I’ve taken 10-1

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    With CPS it’s surely finding a race for connections but if he was tanking out front then it certainly makes life difficult for Flooring ……

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    Post on twitter from a normally reliable source says Flooring Porter doubtful for Cheltenham Festival

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    TakeYourTime
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    Seen that on Twitter just now but the cynic in me is saying could it be a ploy from connections to get a better price. They do love a gamble and a party.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Gavin Cromwell on FLOORING PORTER:

    “It’s going to be tight as to whether he will make Cheltenham or not. I would say at this stage it’s probably 50-50.

    “The next three weeks will tell a lot, but he will be missing bits of work which is not ideal.”

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