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August 24, 2008 at 02:36 #177914
You just know APO’B is preparing a sleeping giant at home ready to scorch the Doncaster turf. It’s a gut feeling, but the St Leger is just the race where formlines are nowhere near an importance.
How about going even deeper in the market to Kingdom Of Naples? Or even more mental … William Hogarth?
August 24, 2008 at 02:40 #177915Haha surely he couldnt run either of those?
Kingdom of Naples hasnt run since 2007 and at a mile wasnt it?
I’d love to see AOB come up with a dark horse though. Would certainly spice up the market again and give the Leger another turn!
August 26, 2008 at 15:15 #178252Couldn’t resist following Ben Hutton’s advice in the Post today and having a nibble at Scintillo at Hills 100-1. A big price for an intended runner in a weak field- he finished ahead of Patkai in the Voltigeur and looks sure to relish the trip.
August 26, 2008 at 16:22 #178260I’m hardly out on a limb tipping a 100/1-on shot, but I’ll be amazed if Scintillo reaches the first 3 in the Leger. The Voltigeur was a Leger Trial in name only I feel. If the Leger winner comes from that I can only see it being Patkai, but I suspect he won’t win it either. Can’t play in this race until Beckett is able to put all his cards on the table. If the Oaks winner turns up, she wins by half the track.
August 26, 2008 at 18:30 #178272I’m hardly out on a limb tipping a 100/1-on shot, but I’ll be amazed if Scintillo reaches the first 3 in the Leger. The Voltigeur was a Leger Trial in name only I feel. If the Leger winner comes from that I can only see it being Patkai, but I suspect he won’t win it either. Can’t play in this race until Beckett is able to put all his cards on the table. If the Oaks winner turns up, she wins by half the track.
David don’t you think that there is a possibility that the Oaks winner may have been flattered a little by the way the race (Oaks) panned out given that they went too fast early on and she came from well off the pace, sort of played into her hands (or hooves lol) a bit?
I can’t help getting a little "iffy" feeling about the Oaks form.
August 26, 2008 at 19:19 #178283Not at all to be honest. If you watch the race again, you’ll see that Look Here didn’t come from "well off the pace", she was never really any worse that mid-field. She’s tanked through the race and quickly put a seal on things when ridden. If any of the front 3 were going to be flattered off that gallop, it would be Moonstone, but she’s confirmed the form in the Irish event. Add in that the time compared extremely well with the Coronation Cup run the same day and I am pretty confident Look Here was fully value for everything she showed at Epsom.
August 26, 2008 at 19:26 #178284As odd as this may sound, I sadly thought about a complicated long trendline which would give me a lot more cofidence backing Zarkava more for the Arc if Look Here wins the Leger.
I’d love to see Look Here run albeit my money is on Unsung Heroine at the moment.
Can’t see Cenntenial winning here and would probably, on Gt.V form, be more inclined to back Top Lock as that horse has run well on all surfaces now in my opinion.
August 26, 2008 at 23:11 #178307You’re more than likely right DJ, but 25/1 the place might look big if only 8 or 9 turn up, he’ll be plugging on up the straight. can’t have Centennial on my mind- waste of money supplementing him IMHO- flattered by the run of the race last time. Look Here has the form in the book but her absence is a huge worry.
August 27, 2008 at 15:34 #178358Any word whether Doctor Fremantle is an intended runner?
I agree with DJ’s sentiments about Look here. 5/2 would be acceptable if she definitely runs.
If not, I wonder whether Godolphin will run Campanologist? If Frankie got a soft lead, it may allow him to overcome his suspect stamina, and he does have some of the best form on offer (those with better all have doubts about their participation)
August 27, 2008 at 16:21 #178362Any word whether Doctor Fremantle is an intended runner?
I’ve been watching his movement on the BF market pretty closely, and having drifted gradually to reach a high of 28 yesterday, he’s back into 15 now. Make of that what you will, considering Teddy Grimthorpe’s lukewarm press release yesterday.
August 27, 2008 at 16:57 #178364Moonstone didn’t accept today, so I’d say you can take it she doesn’t run
August 27, 2008 at 18:49 #178374Frozen Fire is unquoted in both Paddy Power’s and Victor Chandler’s lists yet is 1st or 2nd favourite in all others (5/1 with Ladbrokes) while Patkai is unquoted in Ladbrokes.
August 28, 2008 at 11:22 #178427FF is quoted fav by all firms on the RP site including PP and VC. I doubt Patkai will run after disappointing last time. As for Dr Freemantle they are hopeful of getting him there though injury and no prep race makes him a bit of a risky bet if he does run.
August 28, 2008 at 11:47 #178430Patkai was a terrible favourite and anyone who was backing him at the prices wanted their heads examined imo. Got shown up at the weekend.
Looks like he has his own ideas as well…
August 28, 2008 at 19:42 #178472Would carry more weight if you’d posted that before the Voltigeur as I did Aragorn!
August 29, 2008 at 08:04 #178519It now look’s as if frozen fire will be heading to doncaster for the race according to his trainer.If thats the case then the 5/1 on offer is a fantastic price
August 31, 2008 at 19:26 #178765THey have been saying for months it’s Frozen Fire will run and the bookies generosity probaly stems from the uncertainty about Look Here. Her trainer won’t run her unless she is 100% fit as he has aklready said he would prefer to miss the race than see her beaten.
I would have to have an interest on her if she turns up but should she miss the race 6/1 about frozen Fire as you say is a great price.
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