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- July 23, 2022 at 15:56 #1608242
Agree
and he didn’t like being taken on by Broome either
if something hassles him for the lead he’s screwed
don’t think he’ll run personallyGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
August 23, 2022 at 14:12 #1612343St Leger remaining entries
Anchorage Aidan O’Brien
Bluegrass Aidan O’Brien
Eldar Eldarov Roger Varian
French Claim Paddy Twomey
Giavellotto Marco Botti
Hoo Ya Mal George Boughey
New London Charlie Appleby
Secret State Charlie Appleby
United Nations Aidan O’Brien
Waterville Aidan O’Brien
Zechariah Freddie and Martyn Meade
Emily Dickinson Aidan O’Brien
Lizzie Jean Ivan FurtadoFirst went to the St Leger in 1978z
The race is often priced up as if it’s 1m4f and it isn’t.
Assume any 1m4f 3yo will automatically stay the trip at your peril.
14/1 Zechariah looks ok to me – better now than he was at Royal Ascot?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 23, 2022 at 14:51 #1612347New London looks too short a price at 4-6. Hoo Ya Mal’s jockey dropped his whip so could only go hands and heels in the last furlong at Goodwood having his first run for new yard. 14-1 looks big in comparison for a Derby runner up. So Eldar Eldarov 18-1 ew and Hoo Ya Mal 14-1 ew it is then.
August 23, 2022 at 17:28 #1612357Looks like an awful renewal to me
New London is priced up like he’s as good as hurricane lane was
And he hasn’t shown that level of form at all
Eldar Eldarov has a huge chance imo
Francesco clemente another example of the gosden radio silence. We weren’t told why he missed the voltigeur and no surprise to see him scratched here too.
August 23, 2022 at 18:56 #1612363“Francesco clemente another example of the gosden radio silence.”
“Thady, my boy, if there’s one thing worse than one of those grubby little jumped-up proles one has to employ to ride one’s horses, it’s those even grubbier proles who bet on them and don’t seem to know their place.”
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"September 3, 2022 at 18:47 #1613250Can’t have New London at odds he at so added Hoo Ya Mal to my antepost bet on Eldar Eldarov
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September 3, 2022 at 19:30 #1613257From Alleged (watching on telly) in 1977 and Ile De Bourbon (was there) in 1978 onwards, I’ve seen a fair few quality 1m4f 3yos prove not quite as effective at the St Leger trip.
And you know what the media said about each and every one of them in the run up to the race?
“There’s no reason to suppose he won’t stay.”
Betting shop bins are full of losing tickets due to that mentality.
At current odds, New London can win without my money on him.
The Queen’s Vase might hold the key to where the value is.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"September 3, 2022 at 19:51 #1613260“Looks like an awful renewal to me.”
It is an absolute shocker. An odds on favourite that on its last two starts has won a handicap and a Group 3.
At least there has got to be some value lurking somewhere.
September 3, 2022 at 20:20 #1613269When the highest OR going into a Group 1 is 116 you know it’s a Group 1 in name only.
That said, if something wins it by a street, it could yet produce a genuine Group 1 3yo.
But I couldn’t have the odds-on favourite – he’s a nice progressive colt, but his sire failed to get the trip in The Derby and, though the dam is related to Masked Marvel, she herself only had form at up to 1m2f.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"September 3, 2022 at 23:47 #1613294Ian don’t forget Shergar in 1981 the biggest quality of all who failed to stay the distance
September 3, 2022 at 23:58 #1613297Absolutely.
Year after year it seems to me the St Leger is priced up as if it’s a 1m4f contest when it isn’t.
Yes, some 1m4f 3yos get the extended 1m6f trip, but plenty don’t.
I’ve backed Zechariah at 14/1.
I daresay New London would crucify him over 1m4f and he might beat him in the Leger, but I know which one is sure to get the trip and he’s still ten times the price of the jolly.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"September 4, 2022 at 20:39 #1613416Haskay to be supplemented Frankie Detroit gets the ride
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September 4, 2022 at 20:43 #1613417Is “Detroit” the alias he’s riding under because he copped for a whip ban in Germany today?
Joking aside, maybe it doesn’t take effect by then and he can ride Haskoy.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"September 4, 2022 at 20:49 #1613418Not sure think the racing post article was posted before Germany whip use ban
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September 8, 2022 at 11:04 #16137509 declared…
Eldar Eldarov
El Habeeb
French Claim
Giavellotto
Hoo Ya Mal
New London
Emily Dickinson
Haskoy
Lizzie JeanHopefully one of my two can upset the favourite.
Nothing of note from AOB or Gosden, as an overall field its right up there in the ‘lacks depth’ stakes I would say.September 8, 2022 at 11:45 #1613756Surprised no zechariah
I think eldar eldarov has a huge chance of turning over the fav
A bit of rain to make it a real stamina test would very much aid him I think
September 8, 2022 at 19:31 #1613844Doncaster have cancelled Friday’s meeting.
No decision yet about Saturday.
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