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Funnily enough I backed Lionel win only at 16/1 a week or two ago – looks like I bet under the odds!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"9/2 Westover seems more than fair to me along with 14/1 Changingoftheguard.
Value Is EverythingYou’d think Doncaster would suit a big long striding galloper like westover very well
If losing the Irish Derby then Westover is pretty certain to be going to Donny. If winning in Ireland suppose might go for the Arc, but (provided he doesn’t win by a long way) the Leger will still be his best chance of further Group 1 glory… And could go for both.
Trainer Ralph Beckett is often in good form that time of year and has won the leger before. Westover already has as good a Timeform rating as Simple Verse (including her 3 lb fillies allowance) and is still improving.
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Was the Queen’s Vase late off?
Was this before or after the Queen’s Vase, Mike?Value Is EverythingBit naughty placing a bet before the race then claiming the price after the horse won
Would you have posted the bet had he not got up?
It was a decision close to the off so good idea to watch the race :o)
I’ve tried my luck similarly before at times, if it don’t work out I cash out so nothing to post.I backed Eldar Eldorov at 500/1 for the St Leger as a yearling, 5,000/1 as a foal and at 50,000/1 when his dam was tested in foal with him.
I then cashed out/”greened up” after the Queen’s Vase.
Slipped my mind to mention all this until now.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Before they restricted me, Bet365 used to let me cash out for 90% of my stake.
But the other bookmakers’ terms were dreadful and heavily slanted in their favour mathematically.
Each to their own, but it wouldn’t be for me as a betting strategy.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“How do you cash out though. For a big loss surely?”
There can be a loss involved if the horse subsequently drifts, that’s the risk with antepost.
I would imagine if you back a horse ante post at 14/1 before it runs and it then gets stuffed and is out to say 25/1 the cash-out value would be 10% or even less, with many books not letting you cash out at all.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"You could “cash out” on the exchanges even if your back bet is with bookmakers, just by laying it to win the same amount for the Lay as you lose on the Back bet with the bookie. However, once a horse is “injured” or runs poorly the amount of money needed to get your money back laying a horse @ 25/1 is absolutely enormous… and the horse could still win!
e.g Tuesday was if I remember rightly around 4/1 favourite for the Oaks after the English 1000. Went out in price after Emily Upjohn won the Musidora. Further out when it became apparent she’d run in the Irish 1000… And again after disappointing a little in that race… And then drifted markedly when it seemed she would not recover in time and thought a probable non-runner. I think someone mentioned she touched 20/1. If someone backed Tuesday @ 4/1 and then laid her to get back the full stake @ 20/1 they’d have lost a hell of a lot when she won… Unless they again backed her when evident she was running… In which case they’d in all probability be facing fairly big losses whatever happened.
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