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    I wasn’t going to have a bet in this, as if all previous form works out it should
    be Churchill’s to lose. Having said that, the horse that could show improvement
    and has certainly a mind of his own (that’s being kind to him) is THUNDER SNOW.
    There’s 8 horses going to post, and he’s 14/1 ??. I’m loathe to say any horse is money
    in the bank, but I can’t see him being out of the 1st 3. If Churchill isn’t right on
    the money today, TS has a serious chance.

    #1305069
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    Churchill wins this easy!!
    But don’t be surprised if Lancaster Bomber runs a good race at 28/1 !!

    #1305076
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    Churchill wins this easy!!
    But don’t be surprised if Lancaster Bomber runs a good race at 28/1 !!

    Missed the 28’s Raymo, but got some 25’s E/W. Hoping one does not drop now out at the last minute.

    He must of been well backed LTO judging by the way his price came in, but got all the rain which wiped his chance out. The ground is going be perfect today and hopefully he is out for himself today.

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    This should be very interesting tactically. Either way I feel Barney Roy is going to get the strong gallop he wants, but that certainly won’t bother Churchill either.

    I’ve stuck a few quid on Rivet to finish in the front 3 at 3/1, in the hope that Lancaster Bomber and Thunder Snow will burn up more quickly than expected with the heat, allowing him to pick up the pieces.

    Good luck all this should be a cracker.

    #1305134
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    Churchill has the best chance, but Barney Boy is much the best value.
    Done Thunder Snow too. Couldn’t get anyone to take an ew bet.

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    Well that was interesting tactically. Thunder Snow and the Bomber didn’t go on as expected and that left good ol Rivet to do the donkey work. They didn’t go much of a gallop at all, and Churchill showed no turn of foot in what turned into a sprint finish.

    He clearly wasn’t at his best there, but take nothing away from Barney Roy – he is clearly a proper good horse.
    The mile division is suddenly blown wide open.

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    Pure dung from Churchill there. He looked ill at ease on that fast ground today.

    That dog from the advert could have done better.

    I doubt Richard Fahey is concerned about the 3YO crop.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Feel so vindicated after that. As Phil Laak would say, “that was very satisfying!

    Frustratingly Churchill didn’t run his race so I can’t exactly run around high-fiving everyone. Maybe it was the ground or maybe he left his race behind in the Irish Guineas.

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    Well that was interesting tactically. Thunder Snow and the Bomber didn’t go on as expected and that left good ol Rivet to do the donkey work. They didn’t go much of a gallop at all, and Churchill showed no turn of foot in what turned into a sprint finish.

    He clearly wasn’t at his best there, but take nothing away from Barney Roy – he is clearly a proper good horse.
    The mile division is suddenly blown wide open.

    Rivet is partly owned by the Coolmore boys, so he effectively set the pace for team Ballydoyle. Must say bit surprised they didn’t set a stronger pace. That said, made no difference, Churchill below form. Some horses go on good-firm but not firm.

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    Feel so vindicated after that. As Phil Laak would say, “that was very satisfying!

    Frustratingly Churchill didn’t run his race so I can’t exactly run around high-fiving everyone. Maybe it was the ground or maybe he left his race behind in the Irish Guineas.

    Got the same feeling as you in a way. Looks like Lancaster Bombers Dewhurst run was not a fluke after all, and he has proved he is a proper Group 1 horse in his own right. :yahoo:

    WD Barney backers, well deserved

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    Barney has done well there as I still view him as a 10f horse, all his races he staying on strongly and they went no pace today and that was the worry as they tend to go slightly slower around the bend anyway. I’d step him up now, it looks like Ribchester will head to the Sussex next so being from the same ownership it maybe they are kept apart. Was there any feedback to where Barney goes next…..?

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    Disappointing from Churchill but well pleased with LB !!

    Even though they seemed to go no pace Barney Roy still seemed to outstay them.

    Well done the Barney faithful :good: :good:

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    I always felt that Barney Roy would get one back against Churchill. It brought back pleasant memories of when Toronado beat Dawn Approach :yahoo:

    Churchill isn’t the superstar that some folk are making him out to be. He’s very good but not brilliant. Gleneagles MK2 IMO.

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    Feel so vindicated after that. As Phil Laak would say, “that was very satisfying!

    Frustratingly Churchill didn’t run his race so I can’t exactly run around high-fiving everyone. Maybe it was the ground or maybe he left his race behind in the Irish Guineas.

    Got the same feeling as you in a way. Looks like Lancaster Bombers Dewhurst run was not a fluke after all, and he has proved he is a proper Group 1 horse in his own right. :yahoo:

    WD Barney backers, well deserved

    Lancaster Bomber is still only a maiden winner. Proper Group 1 horses are not like that at all. He is in a desperately weak division, mopping up places. I thought that was one of the worst renewals of the St James’ Palace in an awful long time.

    Rivet is going backwards and what Peace Envoy was doing in there I do not know. Thunder Snow is exposed and needs soft ground.

    That race was seriously lacking in strength. Ribchester would eat the lot of them for breakfast, even going down the track like Alberto Tomba :whistle:

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Showing your age Steve with the Alberto Tomba quote LOL

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    Showing your age Steve with the Alberto Tomba quote LOL

    My Dad gave me that line Raymo. The only Alberto I knew was Alberto Balsam ;-)

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    I’m not so sure about Ribchester eating them for breakfast. I actually think it’s teh senior miling division that is a bit weak. I think the 3-y-o’s are OK and Barney Roy would be a serious rival for Ribchester in the Sussex, as would a back-on-song Churchill. Lots more to play out in that division over the season I think.

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