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    Mike007
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    Henri Matisse 5-1 ew for now.

    Ryan Moore in post race interview says the horse will improve from today.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Oddschecker have Field of Gold at odds on across the board including Skybet but they are actually still going 1/1

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    #1731784
    Mike007
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    The Henri Matisse form just been franked.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Ruling Court to rock up here then?

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    You’d think so, and hope so Nathan

    Cormack

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    Helcatmudwrestler
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    If Ruling Court turns up here do they find something else for Shadow of Light ,maybe the 3 year old sprint .

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Commonwealth Cup for Shadow of Light

    Yes, agree David… Great for the race.. Having had a string of bets on Field of Gold I would have preferred he ran in the Derby but Appleby could run 5 Ruling Courts and FOG will breese past them all… :rose:

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    nwalton
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    Cosmic Year not declared

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    mickeyjp
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    Should be a fascinating tactical race. Henri has a great cruising speed and needs to be timed to perfection. Not sure how good field of gold is as the Irish guineas didn’t tell us much. Big test for colin keane.

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    nwalton
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    I am with Henri EW, Moore to time his run to drop his head in front 50 yards out(well thats my plan ;-)

    I will wait for day of the market as i am awful ante post

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Only seven declared, which is a pity for the each-way thieves:

    Field Of Gold
    First Wave
    Henri Matisse
    Officer
    Rashabar
    Ruling Court
    Windlord

    #1733090
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Perfect draw for Field of Gold

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Is Oisin Murphy being reduced to pacemaking duties here? 🤔

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Depends how fast the other pacemakers go

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    mickeyjp
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    Should be a fascinating tactical battle. Both ruling court and field of gold have the same type of way of going and Henri matisse has tremendous tactical speed. Any 1 of 3 could win it imho.

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    I’ll go with the Kingman storyline. Both sire and son just pipped in the Guineas, make up for it in the Irish, show their class in the James’s. 5/6, is what it is. I could see Colin Keane having either a great day here or a miserable one, no in between.

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Field Of Gold should’ve beat Ruling Court in the Guineas, but not by much…
    And the form of the Irish race wasn’t imo any better than what FOG should’ve shown at Newmarket.
    That said, FOG probably has more improvement in him… But even so – had Field Of Gold beaten Ruling Court a length in the Guineas, I can’t see the gap between the two being as much as the current 4/5 and 4/1. Presumably punters are just thinking A should’ve beaten B therefore they are backing A whatever the price. Or are put off by Ruling Court not running at Epsom. But he’s bred to be a miler / 10f horse. For me Field Of Gold has “only” double the chance of Ruling Court.
    Form of the French Guineas (with 5 horses finishing within 1 1/2 lengths despite a fast pace) doesn’t look as good as either English or Irish Guineas. Henri Matisse may well be the sort who only does enough and can see him progressing again but needs to find quite a bit of improvement to challenge FOG and RC if that pair run to form.
    Is a shame there’s only 7 runners – 2 places for each way purposes – but with four runners @ 28/1, 50/1, 66/1 and 80/1 it still makes each way betting appealing. Almost looks a 3 horse race provided something doesn’t get a very soft lead. So 2 places isn’t bad.

    Ruling Court @ 4/1 each way 1/4 odds is imo a good bet.

    imo This race can be broken into three.
    50% Field of Gold – fair Evens.
    25% Ruling Court – fair 3/1…
    And 25% the combined chance of the other 5 horses – Henri Matisse with the four outsiders.

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