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  • #1142312
    steveh31
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    Oh dear oh dear what a mess that was.

    Punters wanting their money back, bookies going to be losing a fortune repaying.

    #1142316
    Avatar photostevecaution
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    Oh dear oh dear what a mess that was.

    Punters wanting their money back, bookies going to be losing a fortune repaying.

    I fancied him for the Bunbury Cup and I’m still not sure why he didn’t take his chance there. This time around I felt he was too short and picked Donncha at 12/1 as an each way selection.

    Not sure Spencer could do much there, the horse’s head was over the stall and he got up off the horse and was trying to catch the starter’s attention.

    Speculative Bid was a crazy price at 4/1 in that field. It always amazes me that nobody is interested in getting 12/1 on a horse ante-post and then they fall over themselves to get on at 4/1 on the day.

    Britain At The Bookies? Mugs At The Trough more like!

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1142318
    steveh31
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    Don’t understand short price betters anyway, if a horse is so short bet a forecast or a distance rather than take such short prices, but hey makes my bet a higher price so they can keep doing it.

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    Leaving aside the start, there is no better example of the imbeciles running horse racing than here. Declaring the weighed in for the race, prior to declaring Speculative Bid a non runner :good: You couldn’t make it up.

    #1142326
    steveh31
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    Because they weighed in Bookies were obliged to pay the winner and the fools at ascot trying to save face called the horse a non runner over the tannoys which meant punters were expecting their money back when because a stewards enquiry did not happen they have no obligation to do so.

    #1142328
    tony321
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    How at the premier racecourse in this country do you make a cock up of this proportion ? The worst thing is that it will be brushed under the carpet

    #1142330
    Avatar photoChivers1987
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    Does the starter not get a call from the stalls to say go ahead?
    It was all the more bemusing for the reason being there was a stalls handler in there with Jamie trying to get SB’s head out.
    I’ve not seen anything so ridiculous for a long time.

    #1142333
    steveh31
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    They were very lucky no one even got injured, the horse could have bolted, the stall handler could have been doing something to help the horse and got caught up in it.

    In the end they were very very lucky and it will die away pretty quickly and won’t be in most people’s minds for very long.

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    Avatar photoKenh
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    And now deemed a runner again.

    #1142349
    GeorgeJ
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    “Leaving aside the start, there is no better example of the imbeciles running horse racing than here”

    Spot on. And then reversing the non runner decision. As usual in this country, I doubt any of the stewards will have the grace to resign. A bunch of amateurs in all senses of the term.

    #1143212
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    On reflection think “imbeciles” is overrating them.

    How Jamie Stier still has a job there beggars belief, he should have been given the heave-ho after presiding over the whip fiasco a few years ago.

    Incidentally in the stewards report on the BHA website Speculative Bid is still down as a non runner/withdrawn with the reasoning behind the decision and no mention of any re-instatement as a runner in the race :good:

    #1143643
    Rondo
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    An incident that should never have happened. Will there be a full inquiry into it? One hopes, but doesn’t expect. Yes, I had a monetary interest, and did get a refund, but maybe because it was on terrestrial TV and not at some minor event, it won’t be forgotten. Thank goodness no injury to either horse or jockey.

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    Avatar photoIanDavies
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    It’s nice to be nice but that was poor.

    People like the affable Graham Cunningham seem to think bookies have a bottomless pit of cash to compensate punters with by declaring no Rule 4 AND a non runner.

    Well maybe the major firms do – but what about the small outfits like the on course pitches?

    That can take an entire day’s profits when you’ve worked on a Saturday.

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    #1143692
    steveh31
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    It’s nice to be nice but that was poor.

    People like Graham Cunnjbgham seem to think bookies have a bottomless put of cash to compensate punters with by declaring no Rule 4 AND a non runner.

    Well maybe the major firms do – but what about the small outfits like the on course pitches?

    That can take an entire day’s profits when you’ve worked on a Saturday.

    By law they had to payout full price on the winner and then decide themselves if they refund from angry punters made angrier by a tannoy announcement saying it was a non runner.

    What should have happened is Ascot should have compensated the on course bookmakers who did refund they can afford it.

    #1143788
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    It’s nice to be nice but that was poor.

    People like the affable Graham Cunningham seem to think bookies have a bottomless pit of cash to compensate punters with by declaring no Rule 4 AND a non runner.

    Well maybe the major firms do – but what about the small outfits like the on course pitches?

    That can take an entire day’s profits when you’ve worked on a Saturday.

    Frankly Graham Cunninghams point is missing the real issue here and is not relevant.

    Regarding those poor on course pitches, obviously they need every penny they can make judging from reports that the 3 behind the stand next to the paddock were betting to 180% in the race after the King George.

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