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- August 29, 2017 at 21:50 #1316161
An alliterative title for a race that seems competitive at first glance but, for me, there is a clear selection.
Masar is the one who stands out for me, particularly as several in the race look well exposed already.
Masar won his maiden narrowly, over 6F at Goodwood, from Invincible Army, who was runner up in the Gimcrack last Saturday. I did him as an each-way alternative to hot favourite September at Royal Ascot, and he rewarded the place part with a 3rd to the one time Guineas favourite. Although the winner was beaten next time, it has worked out a decent race, with 8 wins from 6 runners since.
The son of New Approach surely has scope for more after two starts and arguably is already the best prospect. Hey Gaman is second favourite for the Solario in some places, but was more than 8 lengths behind Masar when 9th in the Chesham, and has raced far more frequently in recording some wins since.
Dream Today is sharing second Fav spot in some places. The Mark Johnston colt would be lining up just 7 days after making a winning debut if he turns up this Saturday and there are much more questions regarding the quick return to the track and the quality of what he beat, to warrant him being shorter than Masar in places. For me, the Appleby colt appeals far more at 7/2 as the value here.
Several here have had a good number of runs but John Gosden’s Purser, is 1/1 thus far. It was tight between this son of Mizzen Mast and the David Elsworth colt in the maiden race they ran in but it was Gosden’s horse who got the best of it. For me, the odds of Masar appeal more, given what he has done and Purser’s odds vary wildly across the board, from 3/1, right up to 6/1. Slightly concerning for me.
Romanised won his first race and has a decent level of form. I don’t like his 176 form line though.
I can’t believe De Bruyne Horse is being sent out again. He’s largely lost his way since winning the Woodcote at Epsom.
For me, Masar stands out as the bet. There should be more to come from him and his 3rd to September and Nyaleti has some substance to it, despite both fillies meeting defeat since. I reckon 7/2 should beat SP easily and I feel the firms going 9/4 right now have got it correct.
Solario Stakes Masar 7/2 is the confident pick for me at least.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 29, 2017 at 22:45 #1316164I don’t think you can write off the unexposed horses here. Purser picked up extremely well when he won at Newbury and the trainer already has a very serious two year old in extreme eye to compare this one with. The sectionals this one posted on his debut seemed a lot better than in the second division.
Not sure Dream today will run in this but if he does he’d be interesting. A big, tall, long striding individual and a full brother to al wukair as well.
I also think Vintager and Arbalet are interesting at the prices.
August 30, 2017 at 08:54 #1316183Oops sorry I’ve got Purser wrong he’s Gosden not Stoute

Anyway I think the point is valid, if there is one who’s going to upset this Masar I think Purser seems very likely given the connections.
I can see why Masar would be interesting, he’s the form selection and is exactly the kind of sturdy type of horse and strong stayer who should relish the sandown hill. From memory this can often turn into a kind of slog, occasionally you might get the odd brilliant winner like Ravens pass who blows them away, but more often than not it’ll turn into a battle in the final furlong and the stronger stayer wins.
August 30, 2017 at 23:47 #1316248CONNECT is overpriced for me at 10/1 and had to have a bet!! Won very nicely here last time out and showed it had improved massively from its first run!!
August 31, 2017 at 12:49 #1316275Dream Today is out, as a field of seven line up for this. Prominent entry Hey Gaman also swerves the race.
Connect is in there Raymo and is 6/1 now, so well done with the 10/1.
Masar is now 9/4, and as low as 7/4 in places. Purser is 3/1 second fav. I said earlier that 6/1 was available for his fans. He needs to improve a chunk and hope that Masar doesn’t, since the Godolphin colt has a 16 lbs higher RPR for now. Gosden’s youngsters often come on a ton, so he could be anything in theory. I am happy to be on Masar at bigger odds than Purser is now though.
As always, getting the odds is the easy part. Getting them to win is entirely more arduous.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 31, 2017 at 14:08 #1316280Have backed Purser, happy to take the risk on his potential
August 31, 2017 at 16:15 #13162939/4 is gone on Masar now.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 31, 2017 at 18:20 #1316307I also think Vintager and Arbalet are interesting at the prices.
I agree with you there Judge and have backed Arbalet at 20/1. He just seems overpriced. Connections chose to start him off at York, which isn’t the easiest place to break a maiden and in my opinion he lost nothing in defeat when second to Hey Gaman at Yarmouth. He finished a street ahead of the 3rd placed horse, was closing down the winner all the way over the 6 furlongs and seemed to me to just concede first run at a crucial stage. He hacked up last time to lose his maiden tag and will be united with Ryan Moore on Saturday.
I’ll probably play another one on the day and am deciding between Vintager and Connect. The rain they had will have stopped the ground getting any ‘firm’ in the description which wouldn’t have harmed either’s chances. Both impressed me when winning on their previous starts. I might be leaning towards Vintager at the moment but I’ll be in attendance on Saturday so may well hold fire until I have a look at them in the pre-parade ring.
August 31, 2017 at 22:03 #1316331Am on each way three places at 10/1 Steve so that is a bonus!!
I think if anything is going to get amongst the front two it will be Connect.August 31, 2017 at 22:12 #1316332Arbalet is some sort of crossbow I’m told on good authority.
September 1, 2017 at 11:46 #1316374I like Romanised at 8s, have backed accordingly, will go in again if he drifts
September 1, 2017 at 14:46 #1316383Masar @ 2/1. I was impressed with the run in the Chesham Stakes.
September 1, 2017 at 21:49 #1316420I like Romanised at 8s, have backed accordingly, will go in again if he drifts
I’m with Romanised as well
September 2, 2017 at 10:25 #1316463I went in and backed Vintager at 8/1 to go with Arabalet at 20/1.
A nice looking renewal and hopefully we’ll see something win handsomely.
Best of luck all, especially those on Masar at nice prices.
September 2, 2017 at 11:14 #1316466I have to agree with Raymo, I think CONNECT could take a lot
of pegging back if he gets his own way. He’s improving at a rate of knots based
on his 2nd run where he was impressive over c/d here last time out and ran out a
very easy winner. Obviously this is a step up, but at 13/2 (well
done getting the 10s Raymo) I think he’s got a shout.September 2, 2017 at 11:19 #1316467Surprised more aren’t going for purser.
September 2, 2017 at 12:18 #1316481Charlie Appleby says Masar has made good physical progress since his last run and that he is confident for today.
Several here are promising but need to come forward by various degrees. Romanised has some of the stronger form here, he’s been mixing it in good company. He is a danger and Connect also has a chance but needs to come on 7-10 lbs.
Some bits of 9/4 on Masar this morning, Purser is out to 7/2 and I could see him being 4/1, as there are a couple of questions on how much he has come on in a short time and how strong his win was.
Arbalet has loads to find on the bare form of an odds-on maiden win.
Good luck all.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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