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Quote: from rory on 10:12 am on Mar. 22, 2006[br]He might just redeem himself yet. I live in hope.
Maybe he should pay up when he loses a bet. That might be a start
Right then boys!
Firstly I abhor greyhound racing for all sorts of reasons. So I’ll not be getting involved in that.
Secondly, I said gambling was a means to an end. I did not say that the "end" was money. Indeed I didn’t say what the end was. So rather than jumping to conclusions and judging me by your own standards, THINK before you make the comments.
Finally, two horses are coming to the last in the champion hurdle neck and neck, going at it hammer and tongs and one of them falls. You have backed the one that stays on its feet and it goes on to win.
When the horse falls you do not think about the pain or discomfort the horse is in you think………..Yeeeeeeees, I’m on the winner and for a few bob too!" That’s human nature and I wouldn’t berate anyone for it.
Now all this cr@p that’s spouted by connections about "we just hope the horse comes back safely". If connections were that concerned thay wouldn’t race it at all.
Everybody knows the risks of racing horses but still the game continues yet so many people have this holier than thou attitude – they care for horses – yeah right, that’s why we’re running it in the Grand National over 4 and a half miles on heavy ground over 30 of the biggest fences the horse is ever likely to encounter.
The truth is that anybody at all involved in horse racing does not give a monkey’s about the horses, just the pleasure they derive from the racing. This includes bookies, trainers, punters, owners, stable staff et al.
The trouble with you "holy" brigade is that you just don’t want to admit it.
Ask yourself this – what is the safest way to ensure a thoroughbred does not have to endure pain? There’s only one answer – don’t bloody race it.
This debate is an all or nothing one. There’s no questions of degree here. If you support horseracing in whatever guise, then you too don’t give a rats ass.
However unsavoury that may appear to you it’s an incontrovertible fact.
How’s that Jiminy?
As far as the £100 is concerned I would like to make the donation to the Injured Jockeys Fund (primarily because I care a damn sight more for people than horses). If you could approve the same Carvills, I will be happy to send my cheque today.
If you’re not happy with that then I’ll send it to the Horses Rehabilitation doodaa. Just let me know.
Well Jiminy, I’m off for a well earned rest. Just changing jobs and got a few days off in between so you’ll all have a more peaceful time of it…………for now!
Jiminy, it was directed at you because you ask a question earlier in the thread but I now realise you were just asking about dogs.
Enjoy your break from me and remember, just like Arnie, I’ll be back!
(Edited by Slooch Arm at 2:17 pm on Mar. 23, 2006)
Slooch –
I ‘support horseracing’ and appreciate the point you are, crudely, trying to make. You seem to be suggesting that it is paradoxical for anyone to have the welfare of horses at heart while at the same time supporting horseracing.
At one level you are of course correct. If horse racing was dispensed with then there would be no more racecourse or training related death or injury. I accpet that.
I think the majority of people involved in racing in whatever capacity, be it owner, trainer, punter, etc, accepts that they make a pact with the devil. There is a price to pay for our enjoyment and the economic propserity racing brings. That price is injuries to horses and jockeys.
However, Slooch, it does not necessarilly follow that those people do not care for the welfare of horses. While accepting the inevitability of injuries, most racing people wish to look after, protect and care for their horses to the highest possible standards.
The fact that I enjoy watching motor racing does not mean I have no regard for human life and the same argument stands for horse racing.
Unfortunately Cormack I really do have to go – the plane won’t wait – even for me.
I will return to debate this futher but must say that your analogy with motor racing is strained at best. Not least because the drivers have a choice whether or not they get in a car – horses don’t have that same choice.
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