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After his Corbyn “is senile” remark?
Millions of people are experiencing or have experienced elderly relatives, although not exclusively elderly, with conditions such as dementia or more seriously, ‘fully blown’ alzheimers.
Was his remark a slur on those caring for relatives with these diseases or even the peeps working in care?
If a prominent Tory politician had used this remark SKS and his troops plus the media, would’ve been demanding immediate resignation.
Has he got away with it too easily?
He made a joke in poor taste and has apologised.
I don’t see any need for further action.
I don’t much like Wes Streeting so his resignation wouldn’t actually bother me.
Are there any like-for-like precedents in the Tory party where the offender resigned?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"It’s not so much what he said, and like Ian I couldn’t give a fig if he
stands down or not. It’s the fact that I can’t recall a time when so many
so called learned men keep shooting themselves in the foot. Left or right.To be honest I’ve no idea who he is!
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways“It’s not so much what he said, and like Ian I couldn’t give a fig if he
stands down or not. It’s the fact that I can’t recall a time when so many
so called learned men keep shooting themselves in the foot. Left or right.”It’s an absolute shambles isn’t it, or could it be that the media (and public) are more bloodthirsty now and so jump down peoples throats for things that would have been brushed off in the past?
Really have no idea myself, it just seems like a constant sh!tshow whichever way you look at it.
Really have no idea myself, it just seems like a constant sh!tshow whichever way you look at it.
That’s what they mean by “trickle down”!
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysYou’re probably right Ben, the public and more in particular the press look for
any excuse to brew up a storm. Thing is, if you are in the limelight, keep your
trap shut, dont give them the ammunition to shoot you down. They should have
learned that by now.“so many so called learned men keep shooting themselves in the foot. Left or right.”
Absolutely THIS.^
And all they actually need to do is say NOTHING, keep their snide, smartarse gobs SHUT.
Saying nothing has never been more difficult, it seems.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"To be fair Ben did add the caveat: “supposedly.”
But tbh Hell will freeze over before I “suppose” Streeting to be “learned” either.
He’s just a Starmer centrism groupie.
He’s not wrong, moderacy is the only way Labour ever win power, but it’s not exactly rocket science, even if the Left of the Party contrive relatively to make it look that way.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Can’t help but feel the left will win the next election due to the conservatives constantly shooting themselves in the foot, never known a group of people to be so self destructive!
I agree, Ben.
It’s so often said when there is a change of power that Oppositions don’t win elections, governments lose them and it’s true.
In 1997 Blair led a largely-inexperienced Shadow Cabinet, who had either never been in government or not for 18 years.
But they won a landslide because Major had presided over a negative fiscal event in 1992.
In 2010, Cameron et al had been out of office 13 years and had a similarly-unproven team, but Brown had presided over a negative fiscal event in 2008 so he lost.
The only thing Sunak has going for him is he wasn’t actually in charge when that catastrophic mini-budget rocked the country, but by January 2025 we will have had nearly 15 years of Tory rule and the question will be: what have we got to show for it?
Never mind: would Labour have done any better?
The electorate don’t think like that – never have, never will.
Labour will win most seats, the only question is: how far will they win by?
The kind of Labour government we have and things like electoral reform will hinge on it.
I’d like to see a hung Parliament and electoral reform so we never have a majority Tory (or even Labour, actually) government ever again.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“The only thing Sunak has going for him is he wasn’t actually in charge when that catastrophic mini-budget rocked the country.”
But he was Chancellor when billions of pounds of dodgy money was printed, billions spent on furlough and billions put into the coffers of serious organised crime. He was one of the most senior figures in the government that presided over the fiasco of test and trace and the now widely derided Eat Out to Help Out scheme was his idea (it is now estimated that at least one in ten of those “meals” was fraudulent).
Truss was hopeless but the idea her mini budget could cause so much damage never looked convincing to me. The markets and vested interests wanted their man Sunak in charge and they got their way. But the economic crisis we find ourselves in is far more due to his policies than anything the hapless Truss did.
All fair comment.
I have always believed Sunak is more right wing at heart than many suppose – and I did quite admire his honesty early in the Pandemic when, called upon to spend even more, he replied: “If I spend any more what is the difference between me and a Labour Chancellor?”
But he’s innately weak and unprincipled – he should have resigned on an idealogical point of general principle rather than pursue a Keynesian (or qualitative easing as it’s called nowadays), deficit financing policy of flooding the market with money.
Unemployment is now going to rise anyway over the next two years because as we know, in the end, it all has to be paid for.
Massive austerity incoming – and I can’t see the electorate saying “quite right too” because the average adult nowadays is completely out of touch with economic reality and told what they want to hear rather than what is.
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