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I think politics has just become a cult of celebrity. I have to admit to feeling envious of the French with Sarcozi and his belle dame representing them, whatever his politics may be.
I’d make a prediction that by the time of the next election we get a high turnout, possibly for some years. I certainly hope so.
It’ll go one of two ways, I think – either a tiny turnout as the populace’s disenchantment with the electoral process and all who put themselves forward for it reaches unprecedented levels, or else the sizeable turnout you’re predicting by way of a protest vote. It won’t be the sort of neither-one-thing-nor-the-other figure we had last time out.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Gwyneth Dunwoody has died…
…and with her one of the last reasons to contemplate voting Labour
That is sad news. She stood up for what she believed in and wasn’t cowed by threats or swayed with bribes. A great Parliamentarian.
he might be challenged within his own party before he actually calls an election. The name Milliband springs to mind
Which one?
Or do you think number 10 could be presided over by both brothers at once? That’d be scary – like having Mike and Bernie Winters running the country…
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
That is sad news. She stood up for what she believed in and wasn’t cowed by threats or swayed with bribes. A great Parliamentarian.
Seconded. I can only really think of the likes of messrs Benn Snr, Marshall-Andrews, Corbyn, Kilfoyle and Meacher as surviving Labour MPs with much in the way of moral fibre, and I wouldn’t dare suggest any of these was entirely beyond reproach, either.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
…and Dennis Skinner, bless the cantankerous but oh so necessary old sod.
And for the sake of balance Teddy Taylor, who I rarely agree with, but has always firmly remained true to his principles and has never sought popularity be it within the cloisters of Parliament or with the public
Dunwoody will be greatly missed. She gave a great seminar to Labour and Conservative Councillors a few years back on the Scrutiny process.
Tony Benn is Da Bomb. I shared a platform with him at a meeting on Post Office closures a few weeks ago.
Anyway enough of that. I’ll be ready, along with the activists in my ward, whenever the election is called. Anyway back to the Boris campaign centre
Seconded. I can only really think of the likes of messrs Benn Snr, Marshall-Andrews, Corbyn, Kilfoyle and Meacher as surviving Labour MPs with much in the way of moral fibre, and I wouldn’t dare suggest any of these was entirely beyond reproach, either.
Quote from high moral fibre Benn
who Had a long talk to the Chinese First Secretary at the embassy — a very charming man called Liao Dong — and said how much I admired Mao Tse tung or Zedong, the greatest man of the twentieth century. He said that I couldn’t admire Mao more than he did.
What was the extent of his genocide again? 100 million? more?
On a more local level, want it Benn who wanted to nationlise the "top 100 companies"? At a time when the whole nationisation experiment was largely deemed a failure? Sloppy industries with zero enterprise and demotivated workforces? His solution to the economic woes of late seventie Britain was more British Leylands…
Incredible…
Hes a total idiot
As I suggested, other takes on him and the others listed are also available!
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Well yes…all far left nutters…
The one constituency in politics that has become a bit of a laughing stock in recent times. You have to be mentally ill to still believe in a socialist economic model but the hard lefts courting of the extreme right islamists is something you couldnt make up…
or maybe it wasnt unexpected?
Both extremes have more similarities than differences
I cant believe that there is an election going on today and there isnt a political thread on the forum. No-one is even asking who is everyone voting for.
Has everyone got so bored and angry with politcs and politicians that we are really just not interested in it.
Regarding politics my thought process has become more or less paralysed by cynicism. I am interested in the elections but I want them ALL to lose, which is quite logical in a sort of cynical way.
Does everyone else feel the same?
I’d like to see red Ken get the boot, because I’m pretty sure he’ll cry ..
dave jay i never vote and probably never will, they are all full of promises but it all ends in tears and everyone gets mad
then it all starts again, i think they are all as bad as one another.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
No election where I am, but agree, feel totally cynical about politics these days…..there’s no defining line between the parties any more; however, as a lifelong Labour voter I have to say I have a real soft spot for Boris, so maybe politics has now just become a personality issue. Perhaps if Obama wins in the States it will have a knock on effect here. As I’ve said before, I just think that politicians say what they think we want them to say, not what they really stand for . I always thought that we could make the world a better place, but the problems just seem to be insurmountable.
For many of us, it probably doesn’t make a lot of difference whether we individually vote or not. Without any form of proportional representation, we have what is in effect a two-party system, and at the moment those two parties are both (unfortunately) centre-right.
However, it is important to remember how lucky we are to be able to vote in a free election and live in a country not ruled by fear, martial law, or a corrupt and murderous regime. Many are not so lucky, regardless of how ‘normal’ or even unsavoury you happen to regard the politicians and councillors we have.
I’ve been to the Polling Office this morning and done my duty. As NV says, the absence of any mode of Proportional Representation doesn’t help my lot’s cause very much; but opting out of the mechanism as it is currently constructed on principle would only see the party disappear completely into political oblivion, which it certainly doesn’t deserve.
I don’t suppose Mr Paddick ever had a snowball in Hell’s chance in what is a mayoral contest likely to be detemined by character or celebrity rather than policy, so I’ll be viewing the rest of the country’s poll results for a more accurate reflection of where we’re at under Mr Clegg at present.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
No voting in this particular corner of the Tory kingdom today.
The big question in London is whether Boris can keep foot out of gob for four whole years. I’m going with ‘no’ at the moment and looking forward eagerly to his first gaffe. (Perhaps something Duke-of-Edinburghish involving a Chinese Olympic delegation?)
then it all starts again, i think they are all as bad as one another.
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