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I mean, he is useless isn’t he? Is there a worse trainer around, considering the stock he gets?
Quite a telling story today on the RP site. Great for the team from Bin Suroor, blah blah blah… Yet the photograph of him carries the monicker ‘Godolphin’s senior trainer’ (I bet he insisted on this), and the article quotes him as saying…
“I won the Derby myself 23 years ago and it’s the best mile-and-a-half race in the world and the hardest to win”.
It’s almost embarrassing/cringeworthy isn’t it? I bet Charlie Appleby is chuckling away to himself. The whole Doyle & Ferguson saga showed the man for what he really is for me… Just a very bad trainer indeed.
When will Sheik Mo wake up?
Yes.
Still seems to win good races in Dubai, possibly do best by having him as their Dubai trainer and replacing him with either an up-and-coming Dubai trainer or Mark Johnston.
Do think we have to stop ourselves reading between the lines and seeing what we want to see though.
Value Is EverythingIt’s not what I want to see Ginge through a dislike of the man, I used to like him as a trainer many years ago. He always seemed very gracious, and when Sheik Mo was buying superstars from others (or moving them), then he was a good trainer. But he’s basically never nurtured a champion himself, all of his stars were nurtured by others I’m pretty sure, including Lammtarra. Since he no longer receives ready made stars purchased by the Sheik, then his record of producing one himself from scratch, is absolutely woeful. How many hundreds of millions down the drain?
He remained gracious when the drug peddling Al Zaroni came around (who I think was his saviour with that whole saga)… Yet since Charlie has been doing well, the mask has slipped. We’ve seen Ferguson blamed for giving him bad horses and favouring the other stable… Then Doyle given the cold shoulder and blamed for Bin Suroor’s ineptitude as a trainer. It’s always somebody else’s fault with him… Yet the fact remains, he’s a pretty useless trainer given the riches he has been bestowed with.
He’s obviously in total favour with the Sheik, if he wasn’t, he’d surely have been gone years ago judged on results.
My money would be on Varian Ginge. He’s already training for family of the Sheik. And he’s the best young British trainer around.
Now, he would do really well in that job. Would he want it though?
Don’t get me wrong, Nausered. I agree with all you’ve said about SBS.
It’s just what was said in that RP article I’m talking about, are we seeing what we want to see?
ie With our own previous views on SBS then this article indeed has an “embarrassing/cringeworthy” aspect to it.
However, reading it again with a totally neutral perspective. If we did not already have those views am sure it would come accross as just SBS being pleased for his fellow Godolphin trainer. Not embarrasing/cringeworthy at all. Given our views on SBS it would be near ni imposssible for him not to come over embarrasing/cringeworthy.
Therefore, I think we should be careful reading too much in to the article.
Value Is EverythingWhy do people call him a trainer at all? He was just a policeman in Dubai in HAD to take over after Hilal Ibrahim stepped down after just one season. He made his way to the top, but surely with huge help from others, including Simon Crisford.
Let’s not forget to mention David Loder, who was a master at producing two year old winners for Sheikh Mo. I think some disease forced him to step down in 2005.
He really annoyed me last year when he moaned about “the disaster” of his allocation of two year olds. Other trainers would have been delighted to have received just 2 or 3 of the bunch.
He was a “political” appointment back in the mid 1990’s. Tom Albertrani did all the real work and Simon Crisford used to shift uncomfortably from one foot to the other when questioned as to what SBS really did. Jim McGrath summed him up nicely as “The licence holder.”
A big under achiever but then so is Sheik Mo’s rambling incoherent empire. Compare the Juddmonte operation. PK has not been interested in making political appointments.
He has to be seen to be towing the party line in public (grin and bear it attitude) but you simply can’t be a happy camper behind the scenes with what has been happening and its not like this is the first time another trainer has surpassed him either.
I would imagine his continued success in Dubai is what keeps the boss from cutting ties with him and with Appleby doing the business at home and pretty much everywhere else on the world stage I would imagine His Highness will maintain the status quo.
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