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    Hi folks,

    Tomorrow is the Scottish National at Ayr, a chance for redemption for those unfortunate early departures at Aintree, and an opportunity for those who didn’t get in to prove their worth.

    That sounds a bit cynical, I think it’s a cracking race, and it’s one I always look forward to. This year’s looks particularly tight, and I was just wondering what people think about it in terms of a winner?

    Personally, I think Nine De Sivola has to be factored in. He’ll be running at 6lbs less than he was when he was a 1L 2nd in the Irish National, was 2nd in the Eidur as well and was definitely going to go close in the NH Trophy when he came down. Only concern is a slight question mark on the ground.

    I also think Parson’s Legacy will feature strongly. A good 2nd in the Kim Muir, will take to the ground and has won a Class 1 (over 3m2f) already this term. Also seems to like having Richard Johnson on his back.

    (Edited by Friggo at 12:34 pm on April 20, 2007)

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    I think Parsons Legacy will win

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    <br>I was sat next to Richard Johnson on a Cheltenham preview panel last year and when I tipped Parsons Legacy for the 2006 Kim Muir, he was utterly scornful, dismissed the horse and told the audience I’d lost the plot. Mind you he was right as he finished 9th that time.

    He does seem in better form this season, but he’s not exactly reliable and his good runs are usually followed by a heavy defeat.


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    I wouldn’t worry too much about the ground for Nine de Sivola, it was quite fast when he was 2nd in the Irish GN. <br>RP online have it as g/f on times.

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    I’ve no strong fancy but I’d give Ferdy Murphy’s other runner, Hot Weld a small squeek at a nice e/w price, despite that sequence of 3 PUs.<br>By the way can someone tell me if Ferdy and Pat Murphy are brothers, they look very similar anyway.

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    Quote: from heffo on 1:50 pm on April 20, 2007[

    By the way can someone tell me if Ferdy and Pat Murphy are brothers

    <br>Definitely not!


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    I fancy Strong Resolve E.W but realisticly i don’t think it will win.

    Idle Talk interests me how good is he when a jockey stays on him for the whole of the race? Don McCain  obviously rates it highly or he wouldn’t have entered it in the National and Gold Cup anyone think it has a chance.

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    Danny, I’d find it hard to fancy a horse with form figures UUU to get round. He may well be very good, but 11-10 and strong jumping concerns are enough to make me bypass him.

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    I cannot believe PRINCE OF SLANE’s price on Betfarce, I took a slice of 210 yesterday.<br>The horse ran reasonably well against a well treated Elvis Returns.<br>Has won over 3m 6f on G/F, and the trainer has been quoted that he considers the horse a Scottish GN candidate.<br>OK this season’s runs’ haven’t set the world alight, but they haven’t been that bad either.

    ROSS COMM will like the ground & distance, about 36/1, good chance.

    Bear in mind, there is nothing spectacular in the race [as usual:) ], and N.D. SIVOLA may find this a bit quick after his recent exertions. The likely winner, but 5/1 a bit skinny.



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    Not that I’m biased but Strong Resolve and Catch The Perk e/w will have to be my choices ;)

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    I quite like the look of Classic Capers.

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    Parsons legacy for me. Not exactly had a hard season and the ground has to be a big factor today

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    If Nine De Sivola runs to its best I think it will win.

    Took a bit of 25/1 on Another Rum.  Sign of a return to form last time.  Loves the track and the ground and dropped in the weights from when it was placed in the race a couple of years ago.  

    Looks an open renewal.

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    Strong Resolve ridden today by Tom Scudamore could be worth a wee e/w nibble.

    Tom’s dad Peter may have played his part in suggesting this one to Tom:biggrin:  You can’t rule out Catch The Perk as another from Lucindas stable.

    Parsons Legacy for me and a saver on above.

    Good luck all

    sporting sam
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    Hi all, another good Saturday big race thread.<br>Checked out the big race trends

    four of the last five winners had carried no more than 10-6.

    Looking at the last ten years of this race they have all been won by horses placed or at least placed 5th in their previous run.

    Nothing older than ten won in the last ten years.

    No more than six runs that season 9/10

    9 outta 10 had a good class chase under their belt in the previous year.<br>Another Rum ticks a lot of the boxes although falling out of the official rating profile at 128<br>(8/10 rated between 132 and 143 other two were higher) <br>Besides Run for Paddy(last years winner) Another Rum is the Only Horse in the race with Course- Distance, <br>with a distance win at Cheltenham 13 months ago on decisive good ground.

    The other two which interest me is Ferdy Murphys two<br>Nine De Sivola and Hot Weld even more interesting if G.Lee was on the other Horse.

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