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Because, if you do, you’ll learn about the tend of £billions of subsidies to the south east of England that aren’t included in the goverernment stats
Absolute garbage.
How can "tens of billions" of subsidies be hidden FFS? And what are they?
And why would the anti South east Gordon Brown clique even want to do so?
Havent seen an stat yet which hasnt confirmed that Scotland receives far more goverment spending per head than england.
Just get out of the union and do us all a favour. The majority (at last) of english people want rid….
Absolute garbage.
How can “tens of billions” of subsidies be hidden FFS? And what are they?
I never said they’re “hidden” I said they’re not included.
Clive, be honest, you’ve no idea how those government figures are arrived at. You’re just assuming that, for once, a set of government figures are an honest representation of the facts.
If you’re really interested in learning the truth about your country – and let’s be honest, you’re not, you just want to continue your ignorance and prejudices, so you’ll not bother looking into this – look at the distribution of government jobs thoughout the uk and work out how many extra public sector jobs are given to people in your area.
Then, go to the goverment stats on subsidies and look to see those salaries (and the impact of the circulation of those salaries has on the region) are accounted for.
That’s just one area where the figures don’t account for money being pumped into the SE economy.
It’s just simple economics.
Eveyone knows that the creation of jobs brings a load of money into a local economy. And everyone knows that, in Britain, there’s a disproportionate number of public sector jobs in and around London.
So, although this isn’t called a subsidy, it clearly is one.
Steve
clivex
Would you agree that if Scotland had "got out of the union" when north sea oil came on stream and the revenues from it filled the coffers in Edinburgh rather than London then dear old Blighty would have been terminally fkd in those gloom-laden years of the late ’70s instead of nearly so?
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there’s a disproportionate number of public sector jobs in and around London.
Again thats total bollocks…you dont know what your talking about
look at this link. Public sector employment as a % of total is LOWEST in the SE. And guess what. Outside of Northern ireland…its HIGHEST in Scotland
London is again well below national average
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1292
I would also guess that the drift has continued away from the SE over the past two years too. In fact im pretty certain it has
Sorry, I wasn’t precise in my definition. I meant those paid for by central government, not those that are paid by the local council.
The latter are included in the "subsidy" stats, the former aren’t.
And it’s the former that are over-concentrated in the SE.
Steve
Wide of the mark yet again….
The stats detailed are ALL public sector workers. Those paid for just by the "local council" could not possibly make up 30% of any total workforce
Wide of the mark yet again….
The stats detailed are ALL public sector workers. Those paid for just by the “local council” could not possibly make up 30% of any total workforce
Errr, no.
I said separate out those that are not included in the subsidy stats and let’s see where they’re based.
That’s been my point all along.
Steve
Would you agree that if Scotland had "got out of the union" when north sea oil came on stream and the revenues from it filled the coffers in Edinburgh rather than London then dear old Blighty would have been terminally fkd in those gloom-laden years of the late ’70s instead of nearly so?
Irrelevant to current situation and they had their chance anyway.
But how did britain get into its late 70’s mess? Which parts of the country dragged it down?
Heavily subsidised, hopelessly managed industries stuffed with militant lazy workers…
99% of all English people would rather be Scottish.
Well tough !
and another thing ( he says in Billy Connolly style rant ) …
all those Scots living in England and abroad who bang on ad nauseum about how great a country Scotland is and how they are so proud to be Scottish etc etc.. well if its so wonderful, why aren’t you living here then, eh?I rest my case.
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and another thing ( he says in Billy Connolly style rant ) …
all those Scots living in England and abroad who bang on ad nauseum about how great a country Scotland is and how they are so proud to be Scottish etc etc.. well if its so wonderful, why aren’t you living here then, eh?I rest my case.
I suspect it’s because the weather is shi*te, Himself.
Clivex, I’m interested in your theorising here, and wonder whereabouts you might draw the line? Isn’t it the case that you South-East types see everyone north of the Watford Gap as essentially stealing crumbs from your table? Ergo, won’t you ultimately also have a problem with Geordies, Yorkies, Mancs, Scousers, Taffs, Brummies and Carrot-Crunchers, and not just with the chilly’s??
Where does it all end? The Independent Free State of Clivexland??
Anyways – it is pinned on that I pay more UK Income Tax than you do, and as I ask for fook-all back in return, I effectively subsidise you.
Now go fetch my shoes.
No. Where have I said that?
Would be helpful if you read and perhaps even understood the posts before typing Grasshopper
and this was such a happy thread..
99% of all English people would rather be Scottish.
so does a disliking of Haggis rule me out? I fear assimilation will be impossible.
and this was such a happy thread..
99% of all English people would rather be Scottish.
so does a disliking of Haggis rule me out?
No, but a disliking for Irn Bru and square sausage most definitely would.
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
..then I have a serious problem.
I best go to France. I’m sure Monsieur Sarkozy will welcome me with open arms
I’m sure Monsieur Sarkozy will welcome me with open arms
To be honest, I think he’ll be too busy boffing a supermodel to notice…
Steve
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