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    runandskip84
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    Is it beyond the remit of the bha woodentops to help racing uk/attheraces out by having a balanced fixture list so we don’t have a channel showing 5 meetings one day or none the next!
    Or at least time the races so they are not on top of each other.
    Take yesterday when somebody actually planned Nottingham to go off just 5mins before haydock throughout the day,I can’t believe ruk want this,so would it have been the end of the world if Nottingham wasent shown until the end of the day thus giving a better build up to haydock?

    #1245062
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    As RUK’s idea of a build up to a race is having presenter talking to pundit and vice versa at the expense of showing the horses I don’t think it would be a good idea to omit meetings.

    Race clashes are annoying but the arbitrary nature of delaying races without informing the public what’s happening is annoying as well. There was little if no effort to avoid clashes on Saturday afternoon whereas on Friday evening the 3 British meetings were persistently delayed for 2 moderate Irish jump meetings, something that is not reciprocated by Irish meetings.

    This produced very tedious viewing on Friday evening and in fact I considered it a turn off.

    British racing should concentrate on avoiding clashes with it’s own racing and forget about what’s happening in other countries except in exceptional circumstances eg certain big races.

    I suspect whoever was responsible for “avoiding the clashes” on Friday evening thought they were doing a great job but I would have to disagree, and what were they doing on Saturday afternoon? Did they give it up as bad job?

    #1245064
    thewexfordman
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    Very good point. It’s really too unprofessional on the part of everyone involved when on a day where there are 5 meetings that 4/5 would be on the one channel while only 0/1 on the other. Likewise having three afternoon meetings on one channel and three evening meetings on the other

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    Likewise having three afternoon meetings on one channel and three evening meetings on the other

    Think that is preferable to having them on different channels, why do you want to keep changing channels? If they clash they clash whatever channel they are on.

    How many sports have 2 dedicated channels? Should be just the one for British racing. There’s 2 because it allows a lot more people to get their fingers in the pie.

    #1245067
    thewexfordman
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    Likewise having three afternoon meetings on one channel and three evening meetings on the other

    Think that is preferable to having them on different channels, save’s keep changing channels. What difference does it make races being on different channels? If they clash they clash whatever channel they are on.

    How many sports have 2 dedicated channels? Should be just the one for British racing. There’s 2 because it allows a lot more people to get their fingers in the pie.

    I’m talking from the channels perspective. Having to rush through build ups and coverage of races. If they were on separate channels then punters could decide which race was more important to them and watch the build up. Whereas when they are all on the one channel punters have to just put up with whichever race the channel decides is more important.

    #1245068
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    I would like RUK to have a red button facility. They could concentrate on the days principal meeting and put all the others behind the red button. Having too many meetings on just creates a rushed product.

    #1245070
    runandskip84
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    It wouldn’t bother me if on the big days such as last Saturday’s 2,000 Guineas day ruk showed the big meeting and that’s it!
    When that happens just by pure fluke of the fixture list ,I.e aintree the coverage is brilliant and it’s just like being there.
    It wouldn’t take too much rejigging of the fixtures to achieve this.
    As for yesterday I rekon the delayed races correspondent obviously only works mon- fri

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    It wouldn’t bother me if on the big days such as last Saturday’s 2,000 Guineas day ruk showed the big meeting and that’s it!
    When that happens just by pure fluke of the fixture list ,I.e aintree the coverage is brilliant and it’s just like being there.
    It wouldn’t take too much rejigging of the fixtures to achieve this.
    As for yesterday I rekon the delayed races correspondent obviously only works mon- fri

    I completely agree with that.

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    Is it beyond the remit of the bha woodentops to help racing uk/attheraces out by having a balanced fixture list so we don’t have a channel showing 5 meetings one day or none the next!

    In short, yes it is beyond their control.

    The vast majority of fixtures are owned by the racecourses, the BHA has no authority to decide who races on which day apart from the small percentage of fixtures that they allocate.

    This result is numerous days where all, or all but one meeting is on the same channel.

    There is no solution that will suit everybody, avoiding clashes will always be a problem with so much racing. To be fair the industry has come along way since the “good old days” in trying to address the issue.

    A classic example was Friday 9th September 1988

    Only three meetings in the UK – Doncaster (Ch4), Goodwood (BBC) and Newton Abbot.

    Race times:

    2.00 Doncaster
    2.10 Goodwood
    2.15 Newton Abbot

    2.35 Doncaster
    2.40 Goodwood
    2.45 Newton Abbot

    3.05 Doncaster
    3.10 Goodwood
    3.15 Newton Abbot

    3.40 Doncaster (Champagne Stakes – Group 2)
    3.40 Goodwood (Select Stakes – Group 3)
    3.50 Newton Abbot

    4.10 Doncaster
    4.10 Goodwood
    4.20 Newton Abbot

    4.40 Doncaster
    4.45 Goodwood
    4.50 Newton Abbot

    The two televised group races were run simultaneously. Now that really was bonkers.

    ....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.

    #1245078
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    It wouldn’t bother me if on the big days such as last Saturday’s 2,000 Guineas day ruk showed the big meeting and that’s it!
    When that happens just by pure fluke of the fixture list ,I.e aintree the coverage is brilliant and it’s just like being there.
    It wouldn’t take too much rejigging of the fixtures to achieve this.
    As for yesterday I rekon the delayed races correspondent obviously only works mon- fri

    Wouldn’t that be the tail wagging the dog? Don’t we have enough of that already in horse racing, don’t think the fixture list should be driven on the basis that RUK can just concentrate on one meeting. Don’t C4 just concentrate on the main meeting on big days anyway?

    RUK coverage leaves a lot to be desired in my book anyway, especially for a subscription channel. Too much talking and not enough of the horses. Most of the pundits are dire too eg Dave Yates and Sam Turner last night and Nevison in the betting ring.

    #1245089
    steveh31
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    Is it beyond the remit of the bha woodentops to help racing uk/attheraces out by having a balanced fixture list so we don’t have a channel showing 5 meetings one day or none the next!
    Or at least time the races so they are not on top of each other.
    Take yesterday when somebody actually planned Nottingham to go off just 5mins before haydock throughout the day,I can’t believe ruk want this,so would it have been the end of the world if Nottingham wasent shown until the end of the day thus giving a better build up to haydock?

    I’ve been saying this for years the other day there was 3m race followed 5 mins later by a 5f race then a 15 min gap.

    It is in everyone’s interests including the bookies to have balanced times the only ones who seem to be able to demand this is channel 4.

    There is no reason the times cannot represent the two channels when Channel 4/itv are not showing racing.

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