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Putin was holding the table with his hands when he did his ‘no fly will pass speech’.
Interesting – hands mirror the soul – if you you’ve got on !Putin or the Russian people
are not afraid of NATO.
It was always a lame duck
offensively and will remain so unless seriously threatened.
USA and Germany are to be feared.Gamble this is Putin’s war not sure he Russian people’s , as for fearing the Germans , the fear there is that they,ll lose the gasline
It is putin’s war and it is easy to get the russian people on board just as it is to get the oublic on board re brexit for example.
Goering’s comments before he committed suicide is all we need to know here.
Nationalism is being used on their side and has been used on our side of the propaganda Group 1 stakes.
If everyone started again from scratch , from when russia disbanded the soviet union , im sure the finger would be pointed more in usa’s direction.
But insead we get “russia want to take more countries”..so the goering tactic lives on…About an offensive a post as you can imagine
Equating brexit with an invasion and slaughter of civilians is ridiculous. Also the patronising stupid view that those who voted leave weee just mugs who swallowed up propaganda deserves slamming down with some of the remainers claims which were completely laughable and have been proved to be so.
Where shall we start? Cleggs 3m job losses? Osbournes drivel? All those that claimed the city of London would lose thousands of jobs?
Point what I’m the usa’s direction? The fact that states wanted to be free if the Kremlin and control their own destinies ? What’s the problem with that ?
Not only do you dismiss all brexiters as nazi equivalent nationalists but you seem to also believe the Baltic states etc are completely unable to decide their own freedoms whilst ignoring the terrible recent history many of these people suffered under Russia
And in the thirty years since tell me which states have rejoined a union with
Russia ? A couple of micro slithers of land in Moldova and Georgia perhaps? But what about the rest ? Or is that just down to the usa ?It’s foolish to ignore the parallels, and the narrow-minded forces of nationalism which are rearing their ugly heads; Orban, Trump (America first), Brexit (English nationalism “I want my country back), Le Pen. Putin and his greater Russia are just an extension of these; fear of the outsider, yearning for a lost empire, climate change denial, anti-vax, ‘the British people are tired of listening to experts.’
Befair, ugly heads? In your opinion.
What did Trump do, but the world was a safer place with him. Leftie Joe is a mess and Putin has taken full advantage of it.
Heard of the Durham report? Probably not as far left media such as the BBC have ignored the story coming out of the States that it was in fact Clinton spying on Trump before and while he was in the Whitehouse as President and tried to frame him with Russian supposed connections. It’ll be bigger than Watergate, but the far left BBC and Co choose to ignore this.
The other way round they would have been all over it and stirring up as much as they can to bring some to justice, just like they are now with Johnson.Total crap. Brexit is not just about your obsession (and Anglo phobia). To equate to those that craved genocide is disgusting
It’s about leaving a pretty shoddy economic union which is obsessed with federalisation. That’s not about killing other races
Understood?
Perhaps you can remind us of which states brexiter politicians proposed to invade and which races they suggested for genoicidr
I won’t hold breath
Always reluctant to diagnose from afar, but there is something strange about the way Putin is gripping the desk with his R hand.
I guess if you wanna be run y a non corrupt government , OOPS , and what they bring to the table , then you will deflect with an unsubstantiated claim about the EU.
I stand by my perception of nationalists / patriots. And re the usa..i think you need to dig deeper into their foreign policy. Russia are clearly telling the usa “if you can invade sovereign nations then so can we”.
Remember we are just the uk. We aren’t players anymore.
We are insignificant..i know nationalists/jingoists wont like that but tough.
Obviously the usa see the EU as more of a threat …judging by Victoria Nuland’s previous comments when euromaidan kicked this whole conflict off back in 2014..Big meeting today between UN Sec General Antonio Guterres and Russian Foreign Minister
Sergei Lavrov. It was a bit concerning that Lavrov warned NATO about the west supplying
weapons to Ukraine which could escalate into World War III. UK Armed Forces Minister
James Heappey said it was “utter nonsense” to suggest the West was provoking a wider
conflict.Playing Devil’s advocate here, but does he (Lavrov) have a point? Now there’s more chance
of me picking the winner of the 1000 and 2000 Guineas, but for arguements sake, if the Uk
went to war with Sweden (sorry Sweden), a non Nato country, and France, Italy and The US
all decided to provide sweden with weapons capable of sinking our ships, as was likely with
the Moskva, and destroying tanks, would we then deem France Italy and the US as enemies?
Germany have now agreed to get involved and are to send mobile anti-aircraft guns.I could take the view that Russia are just bluffing, possible, and continue supplying
Military Aid and troops to train them, hoping that Ukraine can drive Russia out of
Ukraine. I don’t see that happening to be honest even although I’d love to see Ukraine
successfully defend their country.Lavrov says the UN was created to ensure the sovereignty of member states and he welcomes
the secretary general’s visit to Moscow. Guterres adds frank discussions took place and it
is clear there are two different positions of what is happening in Ukraine. In other words,
there was no middle ground.Laverov described the meeting of EU and Nato countries in Germany today, excluding Russia,
as an alarm bell for the UN.In short, I don’t think that anything positive was achieved today. So what to do? do we
carry on supplying military aid and arms and dismiss Russia’s threat about escalating
the threat of a nuclear war. I don’t think we can renege on our promises of help to a
country that is being ripped apart, but I’m not lightly dismissing a response from Putin
if he thinks he is being forced back or potentially losing the war due to what he considers
is help from the west.Extremely worrying.
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I often wonder where to start with your drivel but of course you sneakily threw the jingoist label at anyone who counters what you say
“Insignificant”.
No wonder to hard right profit so much from the ever stupid nation hating left
1. The second biggest force in nato. That’s “insignificant”
2. Widely acknowledged finest intelligence gathering facility in the world in GCHQ. A rather vital component . Not “insignificant”
3 Ukrainians have credited British and Canadian training as tbe major reason their resistance has been so effective. I doubt whether they consider that to be “insignificant”
Russia invaded because usa invaded Iraq and afganistan ?
Well apart from the fact that there was zero intention to annex these states, perhaps you ought to wake up a bit and look at who went into afganistan in tbe 80s? And also Google czechoslovakia and Hungary perhaps ?
Lavrov states the un was to ensure sovereignty of member states and you are quoting that with a straight face Bigg?
And the meeting of eu states and nato “excluded Russia”? Really? How surprising
There are times when what you are dealing with is so stupid and irrational there is no point in doing so and that applies to lavrov.
There is no starting point to his utter rubbish
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