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If (that’s “IF”) there is an invasion Purwell, then it’s likely to be after the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics… And probably at least towards the end of the Olympics, if not afterwards.
Putin has given his red friends in China assurances he’ll be there for the opening ceremony. If he’s there after invading then all eyes will just be on him and not “China”.
Value Is EverythingIs that some sort of joke?
Boris meets a Russian oligarch and Corbyn did everything he could to defend the deliberate chemical poisoning of innocent people on British soil by Russian agents and yet Boris is somehow more “linked” to the Russian state
that was the moment that Corbyn confirmed the loss of the election. He was an actual security risk. his suggestion that Putin should test the evidence against him was probably the most moronic statement made in the HOC since its inception but it also illustrated that the far left of labour were totally in hoc to Putin. It was more important to back the soviet state and killing of British citizens than win an election
Think about that
But Boris met someone once
No. He went to a party held by an oligarch, got blind drunk and got up to heaven knows what that could be used to bribe him with. He’s done so many inappropriate things everyone forgets half of them. Corbyn reminds me of Michael Foot who I did support at the time but realised his approach was based on the naivety of believing that everyone was as nice as he was. That’s why I never supported Corbyn and I’m glad he’s no longer in the party.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/revealed-boris-russian-oligarch-and-page-3-model/What did Johnson get up to at this oligarch’s party that he could be “bribe”d with, Moehat?
Hope you can back that up before Johnson takes the “Ricky” route.
For someone who takes offence at a light hearted horse quip about the New Zealand leader, you don’t seem at all worried with potentially libelling the British Prime Minister.
Value Is EverythingOh, it seems that what Boris got up to was…
While London Mayor sitting next to Katy Price as she showed everyone her boobs at an oligarch’s party.
Who in Parliament hasn’t done that?“Bribe”d, my arse.
You really should look beyond the headlines of these left wing sites, Moe.
Value Is EverythingIf we’re talking about, as the title suggests, Russia/Ukraine, it doesn’t
matter if Corbyn was left of Mao Zedong. He was an unelectable fool, but
he’s gone. The problem we have is that the country is in the hands of a
completely incompetant lying buffoon. This is complete manna from heaven
for him. I think he sees this as an opportunity to deflect from the obvious
flouting of the Covid restriction rules which he pathetically tried to use
the defence “nobody warned me that it was against the rules”. This man is
our Prime Minister for Christ sake.I think Boris sees this as his Maggie Thatcher moment, when she was way
down in the poles, the most unpopular PM in modern history, before the
Falklands war. After winning the war the poles reversed and she went on
to winning 2 further terms in office,I find that worrying, because Boris only thinks about Boris. This isn’t
a left wing/right wing issue, it’s that we have someone who is not fit to
be in charge his house, far less the country. He’s a complete liability.Added
I better add, before someone suggests it, that I don’t for a minute think that
Boris wants to start a war, but he’ll try his best to look a strong leader dealing
with this conflict.it doesn’t matter if Corbyn was left of Mao Zedong. He was an unelectable fool, but
he’s gone.Let’s remember when we’re talking about how Corbyn would deal with this situation, Corbyn was standing for PM at the last election. When Brexit was the main issue. Boris was “Get Brexit, done ” while Corbyn was “Let’s have another referendum “. When the first one was still waiting to be done. I know Covid and this Russia/Ukraine event happened while Boris is in office but things do happen. Should Boris step down, probably but I don’t think he will.
At the time I thought that the law was very liberal on Covid. Medicinal exemption sounded very vague for instance.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.|I believe that Boris’s strong line on Putin is based on a number of things. And before every goes down the conspiracy route, even second rate politicians such as Boris, do sometimes just desire doing the right thing
But the other side of it is demonstrating that an independent UK will take a strong line. This will not be lost of the Baltic scandinavian and eastern european states
Secondly the appalling German response and invisbility of the hand wringing EU has been perfectly shown up. NATO has had a boost from this (sweden and Finland looking to join) and yet again (and again and again) the EU is shown to be absolutely useless
True Clive,
When looking at what’s happened since Bo Jo became PM, he’s done a pretty good job… With Brexit, economically moving to the centre and (eventually) Covid too. When Johnson was elected I thought he’d be too right for me, but that hasn’t been the case. However, has a bloody poor record when it comes to Partygate and other “them and us” issues.So imo he should resign. Bot not until the Ukraine issue is over.
Value Is EverythingThatcher did the right thing in taking back the Falklands, BigG. Islanders wanted to be under British rule (not Argentinian) and therefore Britain had a duty to take them back.
Yes, it helped Thatcher’s ratings but that was far from certain to happen at the beginning of the conflict and there were other reasons the poles changed, not just the Falklands. eg The SDP honeymoon was over and in most areas (may be not Scotland) people were seeing the recovery from the modernisation Britain needed.
This “boris only thinks about Boris” thing is bull.
If he’d done that the Tory right would not be so angry with him (even prior to Partygate).Value Is Everything“Thatcher did the right thing in taking back the Falklands, BigG. Islanders wanted to be under British rule (not Argentinian) and therefore Britain had a duty to take them back.”
I didn’t mention or even suggest it wasn’t the right thing to do, so why highlight that?
“Yes, it helped Thatcher’s ratings but that was far from certain to happen at the beginning of the conflict and there were other reasons the poles changed, not just the Falklands. eg The SDP honeymoon was over and in most areas (may be not Scotland) people were seeing the recovery from the modernisation Britain needed.”
The poles changed completely at the end of the war, from being really low to being well
back in front. That’s a fact.“This “boris only thinks about Boris” thing is bull.
If he’d done that the Tory right would not be so angry with him (even prior to Partygate).”If you think that Boris has done a good job, fair enough that’s your view, but I think
he goes from one self made calamity to an other and I don’t believe it’s just the right
that are angry with him. He’s a liar, untrustworthy,self obsessed and a liability to
this country.I know you’re a dyed in the wool Tory Ginge, but even so I just find it incredible
that you would support this man. I think he is a disgrace.Trump professed to be isolationist but, while President, he did become fond of telling other World Leaders how they should be running their countries.
When you’ve got the best military kit, it’s hard not to stick your oar in with impunity if you’ve got a bit of an ego.
But he’s gone, ditto Corbyn – all comparisons irrelevant.
And while he’d bore me to death if we were trapped in a lift, at least Starmer would be working on a way to get us both out. Johnson would strangle you just to make the air last longer.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I agree that any invasion will be deferred till after the Olympics; Russia is becoming a client state for China, but will have been told what to do.
What is a “client state”?
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways“I didn’t mention or even suggest it wasn’t the right thing to do, so why highlight that”?
You were the one who brought up Margret Thatcher, BigG; saying about her being well behind in the polls before going to war… But you did NOT say – either way – whether going to war was the right or wrong thing to do and imo it was important to point out it was definitely the right thing. Indeed, imo it is only right to point that out.
“The poles changed completely at the end of the war, from being really low to being well
back in front. That’s a fact”.For sure it was a major part in Thatcher’s second election success, just as much to do with Labour’s attitude to re-taking the Falklands… Which is in itself reason to have voted Conservative. But there were other issues too that helped changed people’s thinking.
Value Is Everything“If you think that Boris has done a good job, fair enough that’s your view, but I think
he goes from one self made calamity to an other and I don’t believe it’s just the right
that are angry with him. He’s a liar, untrustworthy,self obsessed and a liability to
this country. I know you’re a dyed in the wool Tory Ginge, but even so I just find it incredible
that you would support this man. I think he is a disgrace”.Eh?
I know the left like to forget about all the good someone does if they make one (admittedly big) mistake – just look at how Labour treated Blair and SNP treat Salmond… And how the left want to get rid of statues.
My point was that what Johnson has done – in the running of the country – has imo generally been good. It’s the other stuff that’s badly let him down. Look at the reasons you yourself give BigG “He’s a liar, untrustworthy, self obsessed”. I pretty much agree with all that… And so I do NOT “support this man” despite the good he’s done for the country…
Which is why I called for him to resign.
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