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- June 17, 2008 at 15:32 #168792
Too much B****y fashion and chit chat as usual!!!!!!!!!! Who the hell wants to hear about Sacha and Bonnie arranging babysitting so it enables them to go to Ascot!!
June 17, 2008 at 15:37 #168793As with Cheltenham, I will probably only have five or six bets maximum during the Royal Ascot meeting.
Hopefully Henrythenavigator can get me off to a good start.
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June 17, 2008 at 15:57 #168799Oh dear, I have been tempted into getting my Fleeting Spirit stake back on Henrythenavigator. Surely he must win – I know Rio De La Plata may not have stayed as well as New Approach at Epsom, but that form line alone means Henry should have nothing to fear from Falco or Rio?
Lets hope Henry gets a clear passage and scoots clear below the distance.
He certainly had nothing to fear from Rio!
June 17, 2008 at 15:59 #168805This (BBC’s coverage) is terrible. Is there any wonder horse-racing struggles to attract a new, younger audience? Seeing that feature about jockey’s wives, with one of them telling the girls about arranging for ‘Bonny’ to babysit the kids so she can goto Ascot and show off her dress… it makes Ascot seem so unwelcoming, a World apart, inaccessible to ordinary people.
I’ve never liked Claire Balding’s presenting. Her manner is haughty and pompous yet the content (of what she talks about) is condescendingly light: as if she’s presenting the program exclusively for the benefit of dilettante minor-Royals watching at home, who want something simple but with a swanky veneer.
It’s all so smug. Obviously the feudal-style setup of Ascot doesn’t help.
I wish they’d show that footage of Ouiji Board and her foal again from Epsom on Friday. That would be soothing.
June 17, 2008 at 21:12 #168898It seems that whatever they do is working but tactics. I believe tactics are for the benefit of whoever will listen, Heffernan won the first Irish Classic for Ballydoyle over a more fancied horse from the stable.Was that just tactics or horses running on their merit?Last year they were 123 in the saint james palace stakes. Was that tactics and did the right horse win?Mount Nelson was interfered with at critical point in todays race and might have won otherwise. The tactics is to let the best horse win.Finsceal Beo interfered with a couple. Was that Ballydoyle tactics?
Races are run and races are won so quit the whining.June 17, 2008 at 22:47 #168921It seems that whatever they do is working but tactics. I believe tactics are for the benefit of whoever will listen, Heffernan won the first Irish Classic for Ballydoyle over a more fancied horse from the stable.Was that just tactics or horses running on their merit?Last year they were 123 in the saint james palace stakes. Was that tactics and did the right horse win?Mount Nelson was interfered with at critical point in todays race and might have won otherwise. The tactics is to let the best horse win.Finsceal Beo interfered with a couple. Was that Ballydoyle tactics?
Races are run and races are won so quit the whining.I don’t understand any of this.
June 17, 2008 at 22:52 #168922Tactics has nothing to do with the order in which runners from the same stable finish, andyod, and everything to do with associated being used to set a race up for their stablemate. Whether today’s manoeuvre in the Queen Anne quite passes for tactical riding, I don’t know, but the antics at Epsom sure as hell did (that’s not to so Getaway would definitely have won, but he wasn’t given the chance to).
June 18, 2008 at 06:50 #168951
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You have to laugh, don’t you!
JPM climbs of Haradasun and is asked about the horse’s best distance; after looking at the questioner as though he’d just landed from Mars, Johnny replied "He’ll be fine at a mile".
5 minutes later, up pops AOB to inform us that he may now step up to 10f, though he’d be equally as good at 6.
Priceless.
June 18, 2008 at 07:56 #168953Wish me luck with My Cat Junior, a 15….oops,66/1 shot!
We nearly had it, didn’t we?
I tipped him up on here during the winter for the 2000 (he had a setback) and for this race on another thread. I had him at 200/1 e/w this morning (Sporting Bet) and 340/1 for the win (BF) so 4th was the worst possible result as the "Cat" is now well and truly out of the bag with such as Falco and Stubbs Art toiling in his wake.June 18, 2008 at 08:02 #168954As well as the two winners he had, AO’B did well with some of his beaten horses yesterday.
Abraham Lincoln ran well enough in the Kings Stand and P Tchaikovsky made up a fair amount of groung in the Cov. despite missing the break.
Certain near future winners, I reckon.
Also Hoh Mike (M Bell) will win soon if things fall his way.
June 18, 2008 at 10:00 #168983Also Hoh Mike (M Bell) will win soon if things fall his way.
They waited all last season for that to happen as well. A frustrating horse Hoh Mike… He needs 5 1/2f I think… Not really a distance you’ll find many races over though!!!
June 18, 2008 at 10:22 #168989I was certain Haradasun had been retired?
June 18, 2008 at 11:57 #169034I would just like to say that I thought that the first day of ascot was absolutely amazing.
Henry was top drawer in the St James Palace, plus ravens pass has proven that he stays 1 mile on gd-fm, and that he could turn the tables on twice over on gd-fm (hard to see ravens pass getting a group1 over a mile on gd-fm this season that henry isnt contesting though, he may be one for next year when henry is retired). The best St James Palace in a few years now. Wonder if they will consider sending Henry for the breeders cup classic? (Id say theres more chance he could do it than George Washington ever had)
Art Connoiseur was incredible, the turn of foot he showed in the coventry was dumfounding, you can see already that that horse is group1 class.
Haradasuns victory didnt look amazing and the queen anne hasnt been the best of races for a few years now but he did stick tohis task well and thought he may be one for a gd-fm eclipse afterwards.
Equiano was brilliant in the King Stands and would look to have a favorite’s chance in the Nunthorpe.
I backed Missoula in the chester cup with bulwark and she clearly didnt like the furious pace of it, but has found a second wind in yesterdays slow paced ascot stakes and may have more to give over the season as theres no shortage of slow paced staying events. The slow pace of yesterdays race led to the blanket finish and it may lead to her not getting hammered bny the handicapper.
Just read the result of the last race on teletext for the windsor castle yesterday, the screen wasnt updating properly but from what I could make out Best’s two runners were 1st and 3rd with the more encouraging jockey booking of steve drowne on Flashmans Papers a rank 100-1 shot. Good training feat if that was the case.
An amazing first day IMO. Ascot can be a bit of an anti-climax at times but day one this year is what its all about. Pure Class.
June 19, 2008 at 01:13 #169173Haradasun beat two very good fillies and the form was confirmed today by Marmalade,who changed leads and sprinted away from the field in the last furlong. I do not recall seeing a group one winner do it so impressively.As the season goes on does Henrythe N. continue to improve as O’Brien’s usually do? And what about Soldier of Fortune, Macarthur, Mount Nelson,Peeping Fawn and Moonstone,to mention but a few others in the barn?
June 19, 2008 at 12:14 #169242Interesting that Hardasun has been retired to stud having only won the queen anne over here (possibly the second weakest all sex group1 over 1mile after the lockinge in these parts). Perhaps o’brien has had a word with the owner saying he has no chance of beating Henrythenavigator at 1 mile and no chance of beating the duke if he steps up to 1mile 2f.
Personally I’d have liked to see Haradasun have a crack at the eclipse, as he was tapped for toe for part of the way in the Queen anne and then stayed on to win, may have had a shout at 1m2f on gd-fm.
June 19, 2008 at 16:34 #169315the reason given is the lengthy quarantine before leaving ireland and after arrival in australia.I don’t know when the season starts in australia for breeding purposes.Coming to O’Brien was purely an economic issue.Leaving is too.
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