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Probally a wrong time to interupt at argumemt but can anyone tell me the last time a seller was run with everyone carrying the same weight? was this apart of the race conditions or something?
Conditions of the race wre colts and geldings carry 9-10. ANy horse that had won at least 1 race a 4 lb penalty. All bar the non-runner Turnham Green had won a race hence carried 10-0.
Hi Guys
Sorry cormack15 I hope that none of my posts (as a new contributor) have offended you
In my view racing is all about healthy differing views of jockeys, trainers, tactics etc
I agree 100 % that comments slagging off individual rides are not helpful as we all make mistakes and get bad luck.
I agree in part with your views about the jocks, in that Murtagh certainly (imo) would have held his own with all time greats, and I would also include the recently retired Kinane.
I think that Moore, with more top class experience, could also graduate to the upper echelon. It is unfair to currently be able to compare him with Piggott, Eddery et al
Have to agree to disagree with Fallon and the others though mate.
Still this is what makes racing great.Cheers cormack15
This seems , to be a really good format with, in the main, really interesting contributors, who respect each others views.
Very refreshing.
Any chance that you can un-retire Pat Eddery for me !
An absolute genius
Hold ups, ride from the front, dodge pots, top class, sellers , the lotCormack wrote….but anyone continually starting threads simply to criticise what they think are poor rides will be warned and then banned.
Using the same rationale, will threads praising a jockey as ‘the best thing since sliced bread’ often based on the merits of one ride attract similar disciplinary action, please?
My fear about this diktat is that it will invariably dissuade most forumites from criticising any ride, no matter how blatantly suspect, for fear of having their ‘card marked’. Do you really want a squeaky clean forum where views are sanitised and censorship becomes the norm rather than the exception?
I agree with recent remarks that some threads/posts have become somewhat inane and have contributed to the forum seemingly becoming less robust and dynamic with only the occasional thread attracting the cut and thrust of articulate debate (e.g. Lydia) though I fear some past forum contributors may have been warned-off for what, in global terms, have only been minor misdemeanors and petty skirmishes.
K
I reckon Nathan Hughes has got at them with his pot of gold. Notice the same surname as Richard?
Come on guys, reveal yourselves and at least give me a decent run for my money.
Kenundrum you are very close, did you notice the ride I gave Canford Cliffs in the Irish Guineas and the one’s Mr Wilson(Richard Hannon) raves about on Paco Boy? I believe I napped these on Bob’s 4pp.
You just keep backing the N/R’s buddy and wait for the wink, like the 15th June, the ones mentioned above. Mr Hann……I mean Mr Wilson and I have high hopes.
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
If you’d offered me 10/1+ ten or so years ago that Hughes would still be riding on the Flat in 2010 I wouldn’t have been tempted
Back then it looked for all the world that he’d lose his battle with bodyweight; that he’s managed to control it speaks volumes for his resolve but I’d hazard a guess the effort required is the primary source of torture – to body and soul
He seems to come in for an undue amount of criticism on TRF and while I’m in no position to comment, having not seem much of him or any other Flat jockey in recent years, it is possible the grind of deprivation is wearing him down
Few ‘long fellas’ other than Piggott, who was a one-off in so many ways, have managed to continue for so long without the emergence and ultimate triumph of hidden demons
According to the RP article, since going teetotal his weight is down a couple of pounds and more under control.
There was an item on him on BBC a year or so ago.
In addition to normal ways of sweating, he has a jacuzzi like hot bath at home that he spends hours in.
Also smokes as an appetite surpressor and there wasn’t much in the fridge!
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If you’d offered me 10/1+ ten or so years ago that Hughes would still be riding on the Flat in 2010 I wouldn’t have been tempted
Back then it looked for all the world that he’d lose his battle with bodyweight; that he’s managed to control it speaks volumes for his resolve but I’d hazard a guess the effort required is the primary source of torture – to body and soul
Yes indeed. For what it’s worth, I think he has it in him to be a great trainer once he finally throws in the sauna towel. His articulacy and intuitive grasp of a horse’s individual needs are highly impressive. For me, he’s the best jockey riding today who’s never won the Championship.
On an unrelated subject GC,after his win at youknowwhere the other day,do you think Simarian will be as ‘rampant’ over fences as he was as a juvenile hurdler.
Possibly not quite as much, GD, but then the novice chasing model compared to the novice hurdling one does prevent that to a certain extent.
I think it’s the case now that after a couple of novice chase wins, a horse is barred from participating in certain classes of those races any longer (certainly class 4 or lower, and maybe even class 3 as well).
Simply put, for as long as that rule remains in place, I don’t reckon we’ll be seeing too many animals enjoying as numerically productive a novice chase season as the likes of Carigeen Hill and Stately Home did in former times.
gc
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Apologies to Jeremy (Graysons Column) it was
indeed a case of mistaken indentityNot a problem, not a problem. Let’s have a virtual pint.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Apologies to Jeremy (Graysons Column) it was
indeed a case of mistaken indentityNot a problem, not a problem. Let’s have a virtual pint.
http://91.135.228.71/$sitepreview/itchycity.co.uk/media/real-ale-pint.jpg
gc
What a great idea, lovely…
On a related note, I notice that
Set To Go
, who won a seller under Richard Hughes at Chepstow last month only to be disqualified for interference, has just been reinstated on appeal. This was one of the worst stewarding decisions I’ve ever seen tbh as the jockey on the horse awarded the race (Paul Doe) was blatantly culpable for interference between the first two whereas Richard Hughes did everything recommended by the rule book to correct his mount, including switching his whip to the correct hand and genuinely attempting to straighten the horse. Doe merely thrashed seven bells out of his mount without giving the horse time to respond or even lifting his head to see where his rival was.
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