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The marketing for ‘Regional Racing’ has been misplaced from the outset. The name ‘Regional Racing’ should not apply to these horses. They still have four legs, somebody is still paying the bills for these horses and they should compete in Horse-Racing not Regional Racing….
If you are a 10% trainer: 35% of your string are likely to be rated under 52. The numbers competing in these races clearly suggest their is a demand: as a punter I would rather be supplied this than Virtual Racing from Brushwood or Portman Park.
To knock all-weather racing, would be no different than American’s knocking the ‘TURF’ in the US. Horses are bred for a surface and should be allow to compete.
For what its worth, my view is that if it pays its way, then so what?
Like the dogs it will be ignored by me being against my main principle of concentrating on quality (and the card at WH was shocking…), but if the smelly bloke (theres always one) in the bookies wants to punt on it, thn fair enough.
On this forum there is a wlecome and natural bias towards true racing fans and purists of probably some intelligence (TDK apart), but we shouldnt forget that a lot of punters are quite frankly lazy or just fun punters. Bless em
I’ve only quickly scanned the previous postings on this thread as my chicken is nearly cooked (!?!) so forgive me if this has already been said but…
Why don’t they just incorporate a couple of regional races into existing sand meetings, either in place of or in addition to normal races?
Surely this would avoid much of the ribbing and tiny crowds, whilst still catering for the moderate and sub-moderate horses that Regional Racing aims to support.
Just a thought…
I just want to pick up on something Clivex said
if the smelly bloke (theres always one) in the bookies wants to punt on it, thn fair enough.
The thing is Clive, you can’t find that "smelly bloke" betting on the exchanges, in fact you don’t get to see any life form on the betting exchanges, it annoys me when people/punters rubbish local betting shops, I think you all forget far too easily how it used to be, get out more and meet people, this is to everyone that sits in their armchairs pressing buttons everyday not directly aimed at Clive, do a little exercise you’ll feel better for it ;) ÂÂÂ
Ian, don’t comment, we know what you’re all about ;)
ps. people that slag off AW racing are probably the ones that find it hard to pick winners IMO.
A horse race is a horse race wether it be Group class or selling class, enjoy it because you’ll miss it when your dead :biggrin:
Lol Jim – I am going to forsake the armchair tomorrow for a jog down to the local Ladbrokes. Once I have battled against Virtual Racing and Bags dogs, I will enjoy betting with a massive over-round, no laying facility and some intellectual banter.
I would try and jog home only my lungs will sadly have ceased working having ingested copious amounts of Frank’s Woodbines. (And for a smoker to moan it must be horrendous!)
Clever Smithy :clap: now smokers aren’t allowed to smoke?
It would be great if there were no smokers in the world eh? ;)
I’m sure you bet on the exchanges AND go to betting shops Smithy :biggrin:  at least that way you’ll meet people some of the time :biggrin:
(Edited by Jim JTS at 8:06 pm on Jan. 5, 2004)
Jim,
I am a smoker so the fact that betting shops irritate me is sure to mean that your average non-smoker finds it purgatory.
Anyway, aren’t escort agencies the way to meet people without worrying about betting shops?
Got any numbers Smithy? free phone you understand as this "smelly bloke" fancies a date with a betting exchange girl :laugh:
<br>ps. so it’s your fault bookies smell of smoke then? you big bad smoker you :biggrin:
I do get out and about…live racing for me!
Im lucky…i live in SW london…so easy reach all round
But bookies..meet people!? Prefer outpatients or midnight casulty myself
im a smoker too but find alot of bookies too much to bear!
Clive…<br>
But bookies..meet people!? Prefer outpatients or midnight casulty myself
:laugh: nice line!
<br>strange world we live in! :scratchchin:<br>
The all-weather seems to me to be the child of the bookmaking industry – it was originally created and its development has been directed by the big bookmaking firms’ desire to improve their bottom line.
I see the gambling industry continuing with a couple of trends that are being piloted at the moment, gaining acceptance in betting shops, namely outsourcing offshore where costs are cheaper (overseas racing) and the replacement of labour by technology (virtual racing).
Should that continue, then at some point British professional racing is going to become an extravagance they can do without, and there will be no regional racing, all-weather or otherwise.
<br> <br>The all-weather seems to me to be the child of the bookmaking industry – it was originally created and its development has been directed by the big bookmaking firms’ desire to improve their bottom line.
at least someone on this thread can see the wood from the trees<br>
All racing is dependent on gambing in this country so lets not pretend that the top class jumps or flat would exoist in its current form without betting…
I agree, I think the odd special event like the Derby or the Grand National might survive as a widespread betting medium, bet on by people in much the same way that the Boat Race is now.
TDK is right about betting and racing, the two are intrinsically linked. Betting in its current form and overall betting are different things though, a tote monopoly as they have in the USA would be equally as good as what we have now with independant bookies all trying to get 30 runner 5f all weather 0-50 handicaps. <br>Regional racing is and as far as i can see always will be a bookies benefit. High profile horses such as Falbrav, High Chapparal etc. are always in the paper who’s heard of Huricane Coast amongst others. The lower profile the horse, trainer and jockey the less the punter knows the more the bookie will make
Martin
<br>apracing,
I admit the races that you mentioned are decent but it is still too infrequent for me<br>At least when you are watching this dross on turf you have the big meetings to look forward to whereas when the centrepiece’s of the season are two £75,000 contests it doesn’t say much……….
Until I see classy group class horses running often or maidens with lots of potential from the top stables maybe, I will not be following the all-weather. <br>An example is when Castle Gandolfo ran a couple of years ago at Lingfield I took an interest as he looked pretty classy unfortunately in the end he had problems and didn’t make it but still it got me interested…………
As for this regional racing, I would not mind if it were replacing a lot of the dross that we see on turf but you have situations like the Guineas meeting being cut from 3 days to 2……The Craven meeting down to 2 days……..The Cheltenham New Year meeting down to 1 day etc
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As for this regional racing, I would not mind if it were replacing a lot of the dross that we see on turf but you have situations like the Guineas meeting being cut from 3 days to 2……The Craven meeting down to 2 days……..The Cheltenham New Year meeting down to 1 day etc
Paul,
a bit of accuracy wouldn’t go amiss. The Cheltenham New Year meeting as you call it was identical this season to last (and as long as I can remember) being the two days either side of the New Year. I don’t believe for a second that the Craven meeting is being cut back because of Regional Racing, so it’s pointless citing it.
Let’s deal with facts, not fiction.
PS ~  do I get the prize for hiding a Francois Doumen winner in my post?
rory,
Its the Cheltenham New Year meeting next season that is being cut to 1 day is what I meant
Maybe it isn’t the fault of regional racing that these meetings are being cut but why are we losing top class fixtures and seeing more of this stuff………It’s definitely got something to do with this sand
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