August 12, 2005 at 18:35 #4028zilzalParticipant
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I grew up with something of a prejudice against female authors who I reckoned wrote prissy, genteel stuff reflecting their backgrounds.
Having recently read Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre, I’ve had to revise my views. These books really are masterpieces and probably better than anything Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â I ‘ve read in Dickens. You are left thinking that the Bronte sisters Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â arrived well before their time.
Are those that vote Jane Eyre as one of best books of all time overwhelmingly female or do a lot men read female authors in a closet ?
Views ?August 12, 2005 at 18:59 #93590dave jayMember
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A good question zilzal .. Jane Eyre is excellent, I read it years ago and remember it well enough.
I tend to mainly read books written by men, I don’t know why, it’s not an intention on my part. It’s probably more to do with the genres that I read, I suppose.August 12, 2005 at 20:21 #93591Andrew HughesMember
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Being the proud owner of a television set, I grew up with something of a prejudice against authors and books generally.
You grew up owning a television set? That’s the trouble with these middle class kids, they get everything on a plate. I didn’t own a television set until I left home. :)
I have to say I have always found the work of Jane Austen and the Bronte sisters to be on the tedious side of dull, but I think they may have been constrained in what they could write about and it is, of course, a matter of opinion.
These days I don’t think there are any obstacles and female authors are free to be as bad as men (JK Rowling, Martina Cole etc.)
As Dave alluded to there are still ghettoes of fiction though, on the one hand, absurd American thrillers (anything by Tom Clancy, the Da Vinci Farce, John Grisham) and on the other, lightweight drivel conciously aimed at women (Helen Fielding, Kathy Lette). The publishing industry is often to blame for trying to sell certain books at what they perceive to be distinct groups in society.
My favourite female author would be Virginia Woolf. Colossal snob and somewhat unbalanced, but ‘Mrs Dalloway’ is sublime. And not a bonnet in sight.August 12, 2005 at 20:52 #93594Andrew HughesMember
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One of the reasons I like this forum is that a little gentle ribbing does not lead to World War III and is taken with good grace, as Ian shows regularly IMO.August 13, 2005 at 09:14 #93595non vintageMember
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i tend to prefer female authors as a general rule, although i have to admit that i am not a massive reader, and don’t go in for pulp much.
margaret atwood is a fantastic writer!August 13, 2005 at 09:22 #93597MatronParticipant
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I don’t really mind.
Just love reading: In the winter, I actully look forward going to bed early for a good read!
Sad person I know.
Regards- Matron<br>:cool:August 13, 2005 at 10:27 #93601zilzalParticipant
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I think it is fair to say that the generation Ian and I belong to have led a very sheltered existence, drowned as we were by the new media of the late 20th century !
I couldn’t possibly comment on whether Ian had more of a Jane Austen upbringing than a Bronte sisters one ;)
Listening to the brilliamt MP3 audio-book version of Jane Eyre, I found the fortune-telling scene an absolute classic piece of story-telling and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Jane’s ongoing interior monologues are so powerful you would think that Jane herself Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â was relating the tale to your face. Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â It is a shame if most people Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â first encounter these great works in poor travesties of the original on a "box" or in the obligatory context of a prescribed school curriculum. It is a bigger shame that some of them have passed forty without having read them.:(August 16, 2005 at 07:49 #93602graysonscolumnParticipant
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Fave female author? Probably Poppy Z Brite, with her seductive, atmospheric gay vampire horror novels such as Lost Souls. Wonderful stuff.
The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.August 17, 2005 at 21:25 #93603The WizardMember
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Jeremy – agree re Poppy Z Brite, with Exquisite Corpse being my favourite (by definitely not for the squeamish / faint hearted).
Other female authors read and enjoyed lately have been:
Mo Hayder (Birdman / The Treatment /Tokyo)<br>Karin Slaughter (Blindsighted)<br>PJ Tracy – a mother daughter writing combo (Live Bait / Want To Play)<br>Tess Gerritsen (The Surgeon)<br>Fay Weldon (Puffball)<br>Donna Tartt (The Secret History)<br>Nicci French (Land Of The Living)<br> <br>August 18, 2005 at 20:44 #93604non vintageMember
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The Wizard (cool avatar by the way – I had to pick it because we share a name),
Didn’t you think that The Secret History was a novel of two halves? I absolutely loved the first half, but then they all went to the ‘party’ at the house and it seemed to lose the plot…
Also I can’t believe they haven’t made it into a film yet – it has sarcastic dark american college flick stamped all over it!!!August 19, 2005 at 16:44 #93605tootingMember
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The Secret History – nope, sorry, couldn’t be bothered to finish it.
Looking round my study I find that of thousands of books I have only a handful by women, so I guess I’m bang to rights!
Rachel Seiffert – The Dark Room was excellent.
AL Kennedy – Night Geometry and the Garscadden Trains was a spectacular set of short stories – shame she never really trained on from there.
Umm, struggling now!August 19, 2005 at 20:16 #93606ZozMember
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Patricia Cornwell is a good one and I’ve read Alex Kava and Tess Geritsen and Susan Hill (latter good at characters, crap at endings so far!)
Nicci French isn’t technically a woman though. It’s Nicci Gerrard and her husband, not sure of first name, surname French. They write as a couple under the name and I do enjoy their work although the adaptation of Beneath the Skin was terrible, by all accounts the Killing Me Softly film was shockingly bad and there’s another one looming on ITV soon…..can’t get much worse!August 22, 2005 at 23:03 #93607KotkijetMember
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For those of you who have been on this forum for a while, you will know that my little peculiarity is to disappear for a month or two before returning for the most shocking reappearance of all time. (pro-wrestling style!)
This month, I’m returning to profess my love for a book which I’ve just finished reading. Written by a female author!
No Logo – Naomi Klein
All I can say is – if you read this book, it won’t be a waste of your precious time. It kicks ass.
Hi Zilzal, regarding the title of this thread, do bisexuals count as ”real men”?
Considering I once p**s
ed Richard Johnson off, well IMHO, it doesn’t get as butch as that does it?
Seriously though, get your eyes into the aforementioned book!
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