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  • #182815
    Anonymous
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    Hi LGR – nice to see you back. 8)

    #182816
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    With my ante-post wager for the 1000 G I am a little concerned they are taking her to America but it is good for racing. There could be more doubt about how well she will take to the journey over and heat more than surface. Her coat may have gone by then and she did sweat up at Ascot.

    It is true Rainbow View is bred to get further, but the way she runs strongly suggests she will be at least equally suited by a mile at three. Look at the pace she’s shown, barely come off the bridle untill the last 1/2 furlong of the Fillies Mile. At seven furlongs she could’ve won hard held.

    Normally for a Guineas filly I’d look for something with more size about her, something that could show abnormal improvement at three. But Rainbow View has probably already produced form good enough to win an average Guineas. So only has to make normal progress to win.

    Cumani’s looks a danger on form and likly improvement as she is a scopey filly. But doubt if she’ll be best at 1m and may well be trained for the Oaks.

    Mark

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    #182827
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    Choosing the Juveniles Fillies over the Turf equivalent could very well be due to Gosden’s uncertainty of the filly coming on with more improvement at three.

    She has not been worked into the ground as a 2YO so I cannot see her being raced out and too tired to go on with another campaign.

    So as far as I see it, this filly is in a "catch me if you can" situation for the 1,000 Guineas. The markets show those toiling in her wake on a couple of lines below, with Again and Shimah the only credible candidates it seems.

    #182829
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    I am not convinced this filly is as special as the 1000 guineas betting suggests. She’s winning and thats a fact but I can’t believe there isn’t one or two lurking out there that will prove to be better than she next year.

    Personally I wouldn’t touch her with a barge pole and think she is very much overrated…..not for me thanks

    #182834
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    Got to love the irony of what fist as just posted :lol:

    #182848
    Salselon
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    What must Sheikh Mohammed think of George Strawbridge? He has owned very few horses in the last couple of years (can’t access RP at work for stats) yet has come out with Michita, Lucarno and Rainbow View.

    #182849
    davidjohnson
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    Michita was owned by Stonerside a la Ravens Pass rather than Strawbridge.

    #182854
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    Then I need to put myself into the same place as Aragorn – ala confusion with the colours :oops:

    #182855
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    Got to love the irony of what fist as just posted :lol:

    Yep, he certainly is faithful when it comes to fillies.

    I guess Gosden is considering the Breeders Cup as she is quite lightly race and it is serious money but at this stage it is only considering. I don’t see any reason why she won’t train on and improve at 3 and while she is short for the 1000 she is the best 2yo filly seen out so far.

    #182862
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    I think as LGR said above there is a tendency to overcomplicate matters. She is the best we have seen this year, and deserves to be winter favourite for the classics.

    I wouldn’t be keen to read too much into any decision to send her to the US – it could simply be a case of aiming an outstanding horse at the most valuable prize available to her.

    Back to the original questions in my first post – what are your perceptions of her chances in each race, and do you think running in either could jeopardise her three-year-old campaign?

    To put it another way, if she was yours, would you put her away now, safe in the knowledge that you’ve got the winter favourite for the fillies classics, or take the more ambitious route currently being considered?

    #182879
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    Her coat may have gone by then

    Slightly off topic I know, but what does this actually mean, is it even relevant, or is it just an excuse that connections trot out for a below par performance?

    Sorry, not getting at you GingerT, it is just one of those phrases that irks me and is used often but never really explained. Obviously a horses coat will change depending on the season but does this really alter a horses ability or performance?

    Back on topic, I personally think Rainbow View is one of the best fillies i’ve ever seen and disagree with others that think she looks more physically developed than her peers. It’s a her action that I love, that is the thing for me in a physical sense that sets her apart from the others. Time will tell but i’ll be surprised if a fit Rainbow View is not still the best of her generation in seven months time.

    #182883
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    She will train on imo and is the best 2yo this year by a clear country mile. The 2yo this year have been diabolical and Rainbow View gives me something to at least be optomistic about next year.

    #182886
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    I can’t see Rainbow View not being amongst the best of her generation next year, but I’d be fairly confident that she won’t have things all her own way in the quest for top honours. As I said previously Fantasia and Serious Attitude look like high class fillies in the making, the latter in particular, and there are a handful of others who could make the step up to the three-year-old elite over the winter.

    I just hope that the feint whisperings of a Dubai-based cheque book won’t be heard at any point between now, and May next year. I seem to remember being similarly impressed by, and hopeful about, Jeremy Noseda’s Carry On Katie, but the switch to Godolphin seemed to curb her progression in an instant.

    #182908
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    She will train on imo and is the best 2yo this year by a clear country mile. The 2yo this year have been diabolical and Rainbow View gives me something to at least be optomistic about next year.

    The best 2yo this year is a daughter of Tapit and you’ll get to see her next month – and RV will see her backside :D

    #182926
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    Librettist,

    A horse gone in her coat means she / he is losing her summer coat. When going racing this is usually obvious. Longer hairs appear, I usually spot it on the belly first. It also appears duller.

    Some horses are effected by it, some aren’t. But it is a sign it may be past it’s best and is something to look out for in the paddock at this time of year. I would want a bigger price to back a horse wrong in it’s coat.

    In this case it is more significant than that. If a horse is getting it’s winter coat and then travels to a hotter country it might sweat more. Rainbow View sweated up even at Ascot, so if she has her winter coat in a hotter climate…
    She could "boil over". Even if she were capable of running to her best with a winter coat here, she might not there. But it is all conjecture Librettist.

    Mark

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    #182953
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    I just hope that the feint whisperings of a Dubai-based cheque book won’t be heard at any point between now, and May next year. I seem to remember being similarly impressed by, and hopeful about, Jeremy Noseda’s Carry On Katie, but the switch to Godolphin seemed to curb her progression in an instant.

    Strawbridge has been quoted as saying he won’t be selling as he wants her as a broodmare for his own breeding. Seemed geniune as well.

    #183125
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    Frankie in place of Fortune is a big plus.

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