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October 19, 2016 at 13:19 #1267789
Had an E/W bet here on Sir Dancelot @ 16’s.
The favourite Capri has been on the drift and Yucatan appears to be the favoured of AOB squad.
Sir Dancelot won what appeared to be a good Rockingham recently and could have the best form of these with more to come.
October 19, 2016 at 14:56 #1267804Looks as if Capri won’t run.
Sir Dancelot is a two year old I really like. Would stand a great chance if it were 6f. Surprised they’re trying a mile. I backed him at both Newmarket and Haydock. At former, came there to win his race over 7f before seemingly not staying on as strongly as the winner. In latter, travelled fluently over 6f and won with a decisive turn of foot… And by a sprinter.I was thinking about backing Sir Dancealot ante-post for the Commonwealth Cup.
Maybe if they go a slow pace and make it a test of speed might have a shance Saturday, but doubt Coolmore will let that happen. You’ve had some good results recently Botchy, good luck with this one. I’d love Elsey to have another Group 1 winner.
Value Is EverythingOctober 21, 2016 at 17:01 #1267985RAHEEN HOUSE 16/1 for a shock win won maiden well and trainer has won race before with a maiden winner
October 21, 2016 at 19:40 #1268009Hard to see yucatan being beaten. Upsets usually happen due to soft going so no excuses tomorrow. Beautifully bred horse who looks a Derby contender along with the other two in the beresford. Race hasn’t been targeted by top horses since Camelot so hopefully we see a potential champion this year.
October 21, 2016 at 21:10 #1268039Not hard to oppose Yucatan at the prices. Yes, it looks a fantastic pedigree but you could easily say that about everything the mare produces. His form chance appears to rest on his second in the Beresford. That race looked a real war of attrition and tomorrow’s race will be a completely different test. It might suit him better but is it really worth guessing the answer at around 1/1?
In what looks a pretty average renewal I would sooner have a little each-way on Contrapposto. He might ideally want a stiffer test of stamina but he is clearly progressive and seems to have good attitude. I would expect him to be ridden prominently and ensure the race does not turn into a sprint.
October 21, 2016 at 22:05 #1268052I had a couple of quid on Contrapposto for similar reasons to Stilvi
Certainly looks progressiveBlackbeard to conquer the World
October 22, 2016 at 00:46 #1268084Favourite will be difficult to beat, ut at that price, no thanks. The Anvil has been running on at the end of his races. Could improve significantly if finally getting a strongly run race. 16/1 each way is cracking value imo.
Value Is EverythingOctober 22, 2016 at 10:42 #1268140Bit of an underwhelming line up … and not one unbeaten horse in to stir the imagination!
I’m going with Rivet. I didn’t think he quite fired in the Dewhurst. The return to Doncaster will suit him a lot better than Newmarket. I’m confident he’ll get the extra furlong too.
October 22, 2016 at 11:03 #1268152I think the favourite wins this, for many of the reasons already mentioned here. Beautifully bred
and probably will improve for better ground. I think O’Brien thinks a lot of him and the money
earlier this week spoke volumes. I’m definitely not a favourite backer, I’m not turning into Gore,
but the 6/4 looks really tempting, I think he won’t be bigger than evens or worse come the off. If
I was having an e/w, I think Salouen is decent value at 14s. Consistent and battle hardened for a 2
year old, and second in a Group 1 last time out in France, even even though it was a weak looking
Group 1. The only worry I have with him, is that is this one trip to the well too often? This will
be his 9th run, and obviously that’s a lot for a 2 year old. However, at those odds I think he’s
worth the risk.Added….. I meant to mention that over the last few days Yucatan’s price has been shortening for the Derby,
he was easily available at 20/1 a few days ago, best priced 16/1 now but mainly 14/1. If the vibes are right
this is a seriously good horse.October 22, 2016 at 11:14 #1268163I have had two small each way interests on SIR DANCEALOT at 9/1 and RAHEEN HOUSE at 25/1 cos I think the fav is far too short!!
Rivet was disappointing last time and personally I think The Anvil is likely to be the best AOB horse. It has more consistent form than the fav.
But if SD gets cover and they don’t go flat out his turn of foot will be crucial!
October 22, 2016 at 16:19 #1268225It would be interesting to know what exactly went wrong with Contrapposto between all the positive trainer comments in today’s Post (‘best he has been all year’) and the race itself. He drifts out from 12/1-25/1 and runs an absolute shocker so it seems the market knew everything but the trainer seemingly knew nothing. Even with no improvement on the York run he should have been fighting for a place.
October 22, 2016 at 16:43 #1268227Congrats GhostofrobV
October 22, 2016 at 17:24 #1268233Nice call, Rob
Sir Dancealot looked really well beforehand and was absolutely cruising 2 out. Got to be G1 6f race awaiting.
October 22, 2016 at 17:58 #1268239ido agree with steeplechacing. only one winner 2 out. just didnt get home. but ran a blinder
October 22, 2016 at 18:34 #1268244Nice shout Rob
I don’t think Yukatan traveled particularly well for most of the race, he didn’t look that comfortable.
There seems to have been a few comments that the ground wasn’t how it had been reported, although I’ve
no idea if that was a factor. I’m not making excuses for him, perhaps he just isn’t that good, but I
think there may be better to come when he gets proper good ground next year. Understandably he’s drifted
in the Derby betting, 14s to 25s, but I wouldn’t dismiss him yet. I was happy with the E/W I mentioned
on SALOUEN, it was a bonus the 14s turned to 16s. The winner looked a better horse than he showed last
time, perhaps the key to him is just to let him bowl along, it will be interesting to see where he goes
next year.I think you’re spot on Joe, Sir Dancealot looks like he will be heading to the top sprints next year,
he was the opposite of Yukatan, he traveled like a winner until he ran out of gas. One to watch.October 22, 2016 at 23:01 #1268283Cheers for the congrats Botchy1, Steeplechasing and BigG
October 23, 2016 at 13:07 #1268343The one thing about yesterday is that it seemed to pay to be at or near the front on the straight course. The first three in the Doncaster Stakes all raced prominently, three of the first four (inc winner) in the sprint handicap, Rivet in the RP Trophy and Masham Star in the nursery.
King Of Naples and Sovereign Debt both came off the pace a little but the apprentice race (KON) looked like they’d gone plenty fast enough early to my eye. -
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