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Who Do you Fancy?? is it another Camelot with Kingsbarns for coolmore? i think Steeler has a great chance but wouldn’t touch him for a Classic because he is most certainly off to Godolphin next year.
I think Havana Gold will win and cement the Dawn Approach/Olympic Glory/Ghurair form as the best two year old form.
I think Havana Gold will win and cement the Dawn Approach/Olympic Glory/Ghurair form as the best two year old form.
Richard Hannon has never trained the winner of this race and, in general, I associate him more with speed horses than staying types. I note that Hannon has added Van Der Neer to the race and At The Races shows Richard Hughes jocked up on that one rather than Havana Gold. AOB has the usual multiple entries and has an enviable record in the race. Trading Leather will be popular I would imagine but I may try Steeler in the hope that he might be a little underrated and still have improvement to come. Then again Mark Johnston is as mysterious to crack as the Enigma Code and he could be tailed off.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I don’t believe Ballydoyle will win this race. If they thought they would win they would only have entered the horse they thought would win.They don’t like an entry from the yard to beat Joseph. However the fact that they have a late entry convinces me that they did not think they could win.The late entry will hardly be good enough to win.If he was they would have entered him in the first place.
kingsbarns looks a lay at that price.
horribly short, priced up on potential really. would you want to take a short price about a horse that’s only won a maiden? you could have made the same argument about camelot last year, but this years renewal looks much more competitive with many more runners.
i’d also be looking to take on havana gold, he looks a speedy type and I doubt he’ll get home in that ground. the one i’d be interested in at long prices would be fantastic moon.
kingsbarns looks a lay (stupid price considering he’s only won a maiden)
and the same for havana gold, who looks a speedy type who won’t get home in that ground.
the one i’d be interested in at long prices, is fantastic moon, who has an excellent middle distance pedigree.
Only seven runners now. Kingsbarns is Aiden’s sole representative. Havana Gold is out, as is Fantastic Moon. Steeler and Trading Leather appear to be the main rivals to the next potential Camelot.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Most of the more interesting staying types for next year have defected and AOB has taken everything out bar Kingsbarn who could be anything.
In terms of the rest Hannon must think a fair bit of Van Der Neer to supplement him and has taken Havanna Gold out. Trading Leather looks to have the best form of the Irish horses left in. Steeler though exposed to a degree does have very solid form on a line through his defeat of Artigiano. The others don’t make a great deal of appeal.
Seems to me if Joseph thought that the Ballydoyle horse was good enough to win this race he would have entered him from the beginning.Difficult to imagine Joseph not figuring the horse out until October.He may be their best horse so Joseph decided to enter him and Ballydoyle made the late entry.Navan can take a lot out of a two’s first run over a mile.
PS Joseph has quite a few entries in the BC this year.My two penny worth
I like Trading Leather for this so long as he has recovered from his run at Newmarket.
Not sure if Van Der Neer will stay a true run mile
Steeler will he act on the likely soft going
Kingsbarns could be anything but A O’Brien has yet to have a 2-y-o win in England this year.
My thoughts will most probably be shot down in flames on Saturday but hey ho.
JohnMy two penny worth
I like Trading Leather for this so long as he has recovered from his run at Newmarket.
Not sure if Van Der Neer will stay a true run mile
Steeler will he act on the likely soft going
Kingsbarns could be anything but A O’Brien has yet to have a 2-y-o win in England this year.
My thoughts will most probably be shot down in flames on Saturday but hey ho.
JohnI think Trading Leather probably deserves to be favourite for this. It was good to soft when Steeler first ran and he dwelt in the stalls and was hampered before flying through to be beaten a head. The maiden he won next time has seen seven other future winners from the fifteen strong field, which is encouraging. His other Goodwood win in a five runner race has seen all four of his opponents winning since, again encouraging. My gut feeling is that Steeler will be OK on the ground and he has looked quite a willing partner thus far. I would back him to improve past Dundonnell next year.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
van der neer won’t get home in a horsebox, especially with all the rain that’s been around. obvious place lay.
I wasn’t particularly impressed with trading leather’s run at newmarket, I thought it looked laboured. steeler i’m not a great fan of either and all in all it looks a very poor group one.
a no bet race
kingsbarns looks a lay (stupid price considering he’s only won a maiden)
So had Camelot at this stage last season. Aidan O’Brien certainly seems to know what he’s doing in this race, such is his record, so the fact he’s only left in Kingsbarns could be significant. If the gamble gains momentum between now and Saturday I certainly wouldn’t want to be opposing.
Thee one that is overlooked by the builder shall be the first cornerstone of the building.
camelot was much more touted though, I think the stable knew he was a star.
kingsbarns is only that price because he’s the obrien default choice. Just had a look at his maiden win and he doesn’t look anything special.
however the race is so dreadfully short of quality that it wouldn’t be a surprise if he won.
given the first four in the betting all have huge question marks, i’m gonna have to give first cornerstone the vote by process of elimination.
Not a thing wrong with Kingsbarn’s run and Aiden O’Brien doesn’t chose by default where Group 1’s are concerned. You can bet he’s got at least 6 others he could have sent for this. Kingsbarn has been backed from 11 to 3 (12k traded) on the machine so someone knew he was coming
Seemed to know his job on his only run traveling well throughout he quickened well when asked and hacked up by 7 lengths.
The opposition looks poor and 2/1-5/2 could prove generous and looking for value, as it’s called, may be throwing money down the drain in what looks a weak renewal
Signed: Fist…fed up ****** up and far from home
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