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I got the connecting bus to Eastleigh and the guys with me were drinking bottled beer, cans of guiness and I was offered a double whisky in a plastic cup with coke – Yep they had a fresh whisky bottle with a bottle of coke. It took away tbe stress of the railway works.
Gamble,
You are a genius, born about halfway along the spectrum linking Jeffrey Bernard and James Joyce
SteepleJoe you are terribly kind from your high perspective, but hey there is terrific writing on here tbat knocks mine into a cocked flatcap
– I was actually a bit ashamed of my post – I have only just got up ( in fact I am back in bed ) and as I put the kettle on I thought, oh God I wrote some slimey splash last night and it was inappropriate.I was tired as I turned in and I cleverly put half a bottle of wine back in tbe sideboard ‘ where it belonged ‘and yes I had done some of Liam Neeson’s power walking on tbe way hone and found it pretty heavy stuff especially carrying all my collectibles. He’s a moody actor and has a lot of pent up about his late wife.
I do check all the past Quality Care commission reports on various hospitals. What I haven’t been able to locate is Ken’s gas bill.
With the cancellations the bookies predicted a loss of 25 million for this weekend, personally I’d say they didn’t win or lose anything from it so broke even.
Whilst Gingers investments suffered approximately a loss of 75 pointsGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Sunday afternoon’s press statement
https://www.britishhorseracing.com/press_releases/bha-update-regarding-equine-influenza-case-3/
The statement comes across as very defensive to me. The BHA did the right thing, however, apart from the yard that had the problem, 1500 tests (of the most vulnerable horses) have come back negative and very few people were expecting that. Rather than be over-cautious to unnecessarily justify its original response the BHA should give the green light for Wednesday asap.
my two cents:
BHA has done right thing to get a handle on the numbers and has no need to be defensive for that.
once it has a handle tomorrow night, make a decision in the context of horseracing (ie the 20,000 GB horses over which BHA has control) rather than the other 980,000 GB horses over which it has no control (and regarding which DEFRA – which does have control – has seen fit to do nothing).
(the figure of 1 million GB horses is the high-end figure noted in this report):
https://www.worldhorsewelfare.org/Removing-the-blinkersOnce again I’m asking the same question:
If there are roughly 14,000 horses in training (see BHA website) and you test only 2,100 of them (roughly one seventh) what kind of reliable result do you expect to get?
The four Crisford horses didn’t get the flu at Newcastle, so where did they get it from? And what happens to the other 85% of the equine population involved in horse racing? Are their tests irrelevant?
Because if you want to test them, we might be talking about another 7-10 days shutdown…..
If there are roughly 14,000 horses in training (see BHA website) and you test only 2,100 of them (roughly one seventh) what kind of reliable result do you expect to get?
Extremely reliable. That’s more than enough to get a very accurate picture of the levels of infection in the racehorse population as a whole.
Put it another way, if there are 10 positives so far from appx 2,000 tests, what are the chances that you’ve managed to find the only sample of 2,000 from 14,000 with an infection rate that low?
Ruby, say we test the 14K horses in training. 0.8% have the flu (currently sitting at 0.05% with those tested).
Do we continue to delay racing or resume?
Has the vet that has confirmed he has tested a positive horse then himself been placed into quarantine or has he gone into the next yard to test more horses. They could pass his test but he could have passed the equine flu into them and it could appear after he has moved into next stable.
Also has the trainer and all stable staff who have come into contact with an.infected horse been put into quarantine.
If the answer is no to either of these questions then what’s the point?
Ruby, say we test the 14K horses in training. 0.8% have the flu (currently sitting at 0.05% with those tested).
Do we continue to delay racing or resume?
We need professional testing and a professional decision!!!
About the testing: I’m not sure it’s always done by the vet, so I just have to wonder how experienced a trainer or a trainer’s wife can be while performing the test. Right now the numbers are very encouraging, but how do I know that the remaining untested population is almost 100% healthy?
Read potato’s last post: It makes a lot of sense.
Monday afternoon press release
https://www.britishhorseracing.com/press_releases/daily-update-regarding-equine-influenza-case/
But were does the line get drawn? We can’t test 14K horses, it’s not required for a disease which is not seriously affecting vaccinated horses. The irish are still racing with it going on in their jurisdiction, they’ve just taken vigilant precautions.
You know that almost 100% of the horses are fine because yards work their horses daily ad look after them. They also test their horses if the horse is still struggling a few days in. That’s how McCain found out about his initial 3. That’s like asking how do we know that almost 100% of horses can breathe properly. We don’t, but working the horses, keeping an eye on them and eventually scopes, will tell us the ones with issues.
Humans can disinfect hence not needing quarantined AFAIK. Same with horse equipment etc, hence yards setting up disinfectant baths and such.
Some of the testing is also done via trainers etc, some of the trainers will now be willing to keep hush if they have a positive and will deal with it internally to prevent racing being delayed further i would guess. Skewed numbers is what will come if racing doesn’t continue at some point this week.
– I was actually a bit ashamed of my post – I have only just got up ( in fact I am back in bed ) and as I put the kettle on I thought, oh God I wrote some slimey splash last night and it was inappropriate.
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