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Does anyone know if Reet Hard has set off swimming the channel yet with Youmzain and conduit strapped to his back? Apparantly there"s a swell around the Dogger bank!I hope he"s greased himself up!
@Bosranic, I was using Dancing Brave’s Santa Anita flop to illustrate how amazing horses can come unstuck in the BC when it is run at PT (GMT -9hrs).
Today, I was against STS after 2f when I saw him ripping Kinane’s arms out of their sockets. The fact that the horse settled, switched out 2f from home, then accelerated in that fashion thru the middle of horses puts STS ahead of Dancing Brave IMO. DB was a stayer with a speedball finish, a different type all together, this horse has class written all over him and acts at all distances from 1m to 12f. That is a very special trait in any horse. But it doesn’t change the fact that any horse can come unstuck when travelling long distances to race on an untried surface in the heat of LA.I reckon if they say he’s retiring Timeform will put him up to 145 now if not and he goes to the States he’ll be put up to 144 and then up to 146 the highest of all time if he wins
I’d be amazed if his rating was altered at all on the back on that. Handicapping isn’t about adding an extra 2 lb to the rating for each big race won.
Visually no doubt his most impressive win of season but given the favourable draw and ground in beating a horse who has won only one of his last sixteen races why are we rating him superior to Zarkava let alone the ‘greats’ of the more distant past? Given the reservations Richard Hughes expressed about the ground for Youmzain it seems most unlikely he provided stiffer opposition to Sea The Stars than Zarkava.
Doesn’t seem to be a problem nowadays, Racing Daily, especially when the horse has the constitution and zest for the track as this freak (STS). You need to drag yourself out of the eighties and wake up to this horse! He ran as though it were his first race of the season for christ’s sake.
What clue did you see that he may be coming to the end of his teather, or that he may not act on the same pro-ride surface Ravens Pass, Henrythenavigator did, or handle the same LA heat that Goldikova, Muhhannek (spell?) or Conduit did? If he gets beat, it wont be the conditions that beat him – we have enough proof of that.
As long as the plane isn’t piloted by Aiden O’Brien, STS wins the classic.
Everything that did go wrong went wrong but he still won.
I doubt any horse ever could have done what he did today
Visually no doubt his most impressive win of season but given the favourable draw and ground in beating a horse who has won only one of his last sixteen races why are we rating him superior to Zarkava let alone the ‘greats’ of the more distant past? Given the reservations Richard Hughes expressed about the ground for Youmzain it seems most unlikely he provided stiffer opposition to Sea The Stars than Zarkava.
Favourable draw in an Arc? The ‘favourable’ draw was almost his undoing, and it was only his class and superiority that turned a bad situation into a good one.
Some people really are stuck are the eighties
…or just blinded by the brilliance?
Everything that did go wrong went wrong but he still won.
I doubt any horse ever could have done what he did today
I think Zarkava may of had an uneasy run at things last year, and obviously the same result.
absolutely brillaint, I dont think you can compare zarkava to STS , he is one of the very best.
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I get the feeling stilvi is the sort of person who still expects his team to ship four goals despite leading 3-0 with ten minutes to go.
Sea The Stars has run freely, been bumped and hampered to such a degree that he’s lost three lengths on the rail, had to sit and wait for space to come and STILL quickened, under little more than a slightly animated drive from Kinane, to win an Arc easing down.
The efforts of those determined to undermine what the horse has achieved are starting to get a little tiresome.
Fantastic! hats off to kinane. I’ve never seen STS so unsettled during any of his races, brave ride, brave horse, a joy to behold. Breeders cup anyone?
as the commentator said a horse in a lifetime
a true champion and the best 3yo i have seen in 40 years of following racing
he is bombproofDoesn’t seem to be a problem nowadays, Racing Daily, especially when the horse has the constitution and zest for the track as this freak (STS). You need to drag yourself out of the eighties and wake up to this horse! He ran as though it were his first race of the season for christ’s sake.
What clue did you see that he may be coming to the end of his teather, or that he may not act on the same pro-ride surface Ravens Pass, Henrythenavigator did, or handle the same LA heat that Goldikova, Muhhannek (spell?) or Conduit did? If he gets beat, it wont be the conditions that beat him – we have enough proof of that.
As long as the plane isn’t piloted by Aiden O’Brien, STS wins the classic.
I hope you are right. I am all for STS getting the plaudits and the rating to go with it. 25 years is a long time to wait, even though I felt that Rock of Gibraltar was under-rated somewhat.
Job done despite things not going too plan.
When Jimmy Fortune took aim at Statalica, the champion had too slip between the two waring parties having their own private grudge match ( Da Rei Me thumped her rival by several lenghts at the line).
It was one hell of a race, the crowds went nuts, the field was a star studded cast drawn from two hemispheres.
What were coolmores pacemakers doing i have no idea, the field ignored them and followed statalica.
Congratulations too the conections, they have one hell of a race horse.
I dont think i have seen him as impressive all season, he slammed a field of highclass horses.
He s the best horse on the planet on turf.
How on earth can anyone crab this magnificent horse and his achievements.
I have deliberately waited a few hours before commenting, simply to let all emotion die down and view things from, shall we say, a calmer perspective.
I thought this was a magnificent performance from a magnificent horse.
Sea The Stars was a great horse before the Arc and would have remained so had he lost, but he won with the authority that all exceptional horses do.
He is, in my opinion, the best middle distance horse since Sea Bird II – that is how highly I rate him –
better than Dancing Brave; better than Nijinsky; better than Mill Reef, better than Ribot – and yes, even better than Zarkava.
His temperament is second to none. He took the preliminaries like some old laid back hippy. I remember Nijinsky becoming all flustered and agitated before the 1970 race – which may have been a major factor in losing himself the race.
No such worries with Sea The Stars, who looked as composed after today’s race as he did beforehand, and now becomes the only horse to win the 2,000gns, The Derby, The Eclipse and The Arc, all in the one season – and not forgetting his other group 1 wins in the York’s Juddmonte International and the Irish Champion Stakes.
He is a phenomenal racehorse.
I think we should all, as true racing fans, be thankful that we are around to have witnessed this equine superstar.
>>> slots STS into second place behind Sea Bird II in list of personal all time greats.
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I still havent recovered from seeing the briiliant sea The Stars win the Arc today. I will never see a true genius like this horse in my lifetime again.
How lucky am I to have seen a triple Grand National winner and the triumph of Sea The Stars this season. Roll on the Breeders cup.I bet anyone my last penny that Sea the Stars will be raring to go again tomorrow. It’s almost as if races take nothing out of him. He could easily go to Santa Anita i bet, but whether he should go is a matter that i don’t have an opinion on at the moment.
I used to wonder why people always wanted to knock him by saying he wouldn’t stay a faster 12f because the derby was a slow run race, as if he’s supposed to run at a different pace from everyone else !!!
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