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- January 8, 2009 at 04:01 #202438
have never worked out if Circulus take themselves terribly seriously or not…sort of suspect that they do which, for people wearing such silly clothes is a bit of a worry…..shall dig out one of their cd’s while I vacuum the living room…..
January 8, 2009 at 04:45 #202453Frontman Michael Tyack is deadly serious about it all, Moe, in a sort of autocratic, maniacal Oliver Plimsole out of League of Gentlemen way – which is why he and the crumhorn player are the only people from my clip who were still left in the band two years later. He gets his way through band members at a rate Mark E Smith would be proud of!
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January 8, 2009 at 04:52 #202456moe, I think Caravan also were the first group to use staple message board log in-name er, Cupid Stunts, or something like that. Not bad for residents of pastoral Canterbury.
gc, if you ever fancy an evening in with ultimate prog-goth album "Tales of Topographic Oceans", just drop us a line and I’ll post it on.
January 8, 2009 at 04:57 #202457I’ve got Tales of, of course..in the loft with all the others!!! I’ve always said that the internet is a kind of time machine and I seem to be miraculously transported back to me youth…..or perhaps my youth is in the loft along with all the clothes that used to fit me then…….
January 8, 2009 at 16:38 #202494Moe, if you told some of the younger generation that there existed a double album with no track less than half an hour and people still brought it by the tankerload, they’d never believe you.

And not a funky rhythm to be heard,,,
I’ve got a double vinyl album at home which I dug out last night called "The Pentateuch of the Cosmonogy", by Dave Greenslade. (Have you heard of it, Himself? I remember it being particularly unlistenable). It’s got a graphic novel in it too, a hand painted tale of orcs and demons (etc).
It’s a beautiful artefact; Rick Wakeman’s right: you can keep your MP3s and CDs!
January 8, 2009 at 18:30 #202519At least cd’s these days do quite often have little books in them..the worst time was when it was all tapes..nothing tactile about a tape..was chatting to a friend this morning who told me that Peatbog Faeries are playing along with his band Edward 11 at our local festival at Castle Donington [having had a pretty torrid couple of weeks this has made me feel almost happy]…the first album I ever bought was called Fill Your Head with Rock; it was a compilation album; each of it’s 4 sides having a taste of different music [Black Sabbath’s Come to the Sabat springs to mind]…then Abraxus [Santana on BBC4 soon] and then Saucerful of Secrets; of course those were the days when you made your own deck and amp..my ex invented a special device so that stupid me couldn’t accidentaly drop the stylus onto the record, thereby damaging both …seem to remember everyone sitting around listening to the quality of the amp rather than the music; this I found strange, but then I was a clerk and they were all engineers [albeit engineers that were stoned out of their heads most of the time!]…friend also waxed most lyrical about Genesis and told me of their best albums [all of which he has on vinyl]..I can only assume that it all happened during my Postman Pat years….
January 8, 2009 at 18:39 #202526I’ve got a double vinyl album at home which I dug out last night called "The Pentateuch of the Cosmonogy", by Dave Greenslade. (Have you heard of it, Himself? I remember it being particularly unlistenable). It’s got a graphic novel in it too, a hand painted tale of orcs and demons (etc).
It’s a beautiful artefact; Rick Wakeman’s right: you can keep your MP3s and CDs!
No Maxilon 5, I am sorry to say that The Pentateuch of the Cosmolology sadly passed me by.

I did like the group albums though; for example, Bedside Manners Are Extra and Time and Tide.
Rick Wakeman is spot on about old album (LP) covers. The magic disappeared with the advent of CDs.
I remember buying Family’s Bandstand in the mid 70s, which was shaped like an old fashioned wireless. It was later deleted and replaced with just the picture of the wireless on a regular square album sleeve.
I also bought and later sold Ramases’ Space Hymns 1971 album ( featuring backing music from 10cc).
The cover (by Roger Dean) opened up into a large painting of church steeple blasting (rocket like) into space. The guy who bought it from me -for £15 quid, later sold it to a Japanese dealer for £127. Needless to say, it must be worth a great deal more today.
Ah, those were the days.
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January 8, 2009 at 19:04 #202531Moe, I remember listening to "Dark Side of the Moon" on a Bang and Olufsun separates-based Hi-Fi back in 1975. I don’t think music – any music – has ever sounded so good since. I really don’t have the words to describe it, so all that care and attention the beards lavished on their system was worth it.
And I haven’t heard the word stylus in years LOL.
The cover (by Roger Dean) opened up into a large painting of church steeple blasting (rocket like) into space. The guy who bought it from me -for £15 quid, later sold it to a Japanese dealer for £127. Needless to say, it must be worth a great deal more today.
How good were Roger Dean’s covers! Wakeman also said that buying an album in those days was an event in itself. You could sit on an armchair and spend a good hour going through the posters, the sleeve notes, the pullouts and feast on the covers as the music played.
Those were the days indeed…
January 8, 2009 at 21:07 #202561I’ve still got the lp cleaner and a stylus brush in a drawer downstairs but, and I don’t believe this because I never ever throw anything away…. the stylus magnifier is no longer with them..it has been in that drawer for @ 50 years [perhaps a bit less…..] the speakers were really for use with guitars and were so big they were part of the living room furniture, and we kept loads of stuff on them
January 9, 2009 at 00:49 #202597A great thread that brings back the memories for me as well. I remember seeing Emerson, Lake and Palmer live in Liverpool around 1974. I know that this band have taken a lot of flak over the years but for me their eponymous album was their best. There is one track – Take A Pebble – on which Keith Emerson demonstrates what a talented keyboard player he really was behind all the showmanship. At times they could sound like people such as The Modern Jazz Quartet.
January 9, 2009 at 02:07 #202609There’s a good website called "Artist Direct" where you can learn about and listen to all your old favourite prog rock artists – along with other well known ( and less well known ) groups and musicians.
Yes, Dave Greenslade’s obscure ‘ The Pentaceuch of the Cosmogony’ album is featured on there too.

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January 9, 2009 at 02:29 #202616I’ve just been checking out Peter Gabriel on the gospel that is Wikipedia; what a fascinating guy he is…..
January 9, 2009 at 03:32 #202628There is an excellent genesis tribute band that does the rounds called ‘ the musical box’, a bunch of french canadians, they have toured using the original props and stage costumes from the band…they are well worth seeing and a cut above the usual attempts at a tribute.
I think that there is also a good bit torrent site ‘epping forest’? where you can download good footage of early concerts.
January 9, 2009 at 19:12 #202789Every time I’ve seen Collins interviewed, he appears scathing about Peter Gabriel. Did they fall out? Certainly, when the skinsman took the over on the mic, the group changed forever. Which is probably why they were the main survivor of the punkalypse which nuked the progessives back to the stone age,
Like goodlife, I’m a bit of an ELP/Crimson man. Anything with drumkits the size of bungalows.
January 9, 2009 at 19:44 #202803Here are "Rush" in action in Rio – the drum kit should keep you happy Maxilon 5:-
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jPMT-2p8NBU
Regards – Matron
January 9, 2009 at 21:08 #202816Re: The Musical Box ( Genesis tribute band ). I have seen them three times, and yes they are very good indeed. In fact, they are the only Genesis tribute band to be given the seal of approval by the ex Genesis members – including Gabriel – and were given the official go ahead to perform Genesis’ classic album/stage show, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway throughout the world. Genesis let The Musical Box have use of the original 3,000 slides from their original 74/75 tour.
As for Collins and Gabriel. No they have not fallen out. Collins played drums on Peter Gabriel’s solo album and they remain friends, but it is no secret that Phil Collins was probably more vociferous and belligerent about the press attention and fan hero worship Gabriel was receiving at the time. Collins admitted he was miffed that Gabriel’s costumes and theatrics appeared to be over-shadowing the music – in his opinion. Gabriel left in 75 to pursue a solo career and wrote the song Solsbury Hill – a song about his departure from Genesis.
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January 9, 2009 at 22:10 #202822Cheers, Himself.

Matron, I’m listening to "Caress of Steel" as I type. Would you class Rush as progressive? I always thought they were a heavy band, before they sold out to the US radio charts. Neil Peart was a superb drummer though, if a bit politically, er, dubious.
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