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Another day, another swipe at one of racing’s sacred cows by a legendary pro-punter. It’s Dave Nevison’s turn today and he ain’t happy with the super7. I don’t want to put words in his mouth but he seems to be intimating that it’s run by the mob, Jack Ruby pushed his way to the front of the crowds to take out Topless with his laser gun and he lives in fear of ever copping it lest he wake up next to the severed head of the winning horse.
Are the tote really on a par with the mafia here?
Weirdest thing! I was having lunch with my bookie today and he was talking about these sydicates who put fortunes on these thigs to try and steal it…….if that’s the right word….Sorry Mr Findlay and co.
Sort of takes the fun out of it for the small punter who gets it up and finds out some syndicates has got handfuls of winning tickets. Don’t think it’s doing the organisers many favours as it must be off puting for some people.
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Four of the seven legs for today’s Super7 were abandoned (they only picked races from Huntingdon and Musselburgh, one of which was always likely to be called off), so the 111 tickets remaining with one race left are playing for a share of £552.
Good luck banking that much cash in one go…
Looking at today’s pool, you’d have to say Nevo has been very harsh……towards the Mafia.
Their numbers rackets typically return 499/1 about 999/1 pokes – 50 cents on the dollar. Anyone sweating on the last leg of the notsosuper7 has got 4/1 about a circa 19/1 shot for their double so far – 25p on the pound. That’s twice as bad as what the Mob offer!
It was hard to muster anything approaching sympathy when the usual suspects "done their dough" on the super 7.
But, even a hardened realist such as myself began to wonder at the timing (not to mention the significance ) of Topless’s jockey’s sudden departure from the saddle yards from the winning post.
Merely a coincidence ?
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Well, with my reputation for seeing conspiracies in everything, even I can’t see that TOPLESS would be willing to jink right. Unless of course, one of his horse friends has got it in for Dave N. then, in which case, he might have been bribed with a few carrots. However, I’m convinced the jink was more about the stick than the carrot.
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£436.60 return for each of the three winning tickets today (the Any6 and Any5 pools obviously couldn’t be won so were added to the ‘Super3’ pot).
These pool bets are good for offering a low stakes punter a big win. However, it is galling when syndicates win it. But then without there wads of cash, the pools wouldn’t be worth winning.
Not a super 7 fan mind. If you are a low stakes punter you’d be better choosing 7 horses and putting a 10p e/w acca on!
This fallacy that the syndicates somehow have a huge edge in pool bets is beginning to get on my t*ts- quite simply as Chris Broom says today, their 2 quid line has the same chance as the small punter’s. Of course a syndicate is more likely to win it but that doesn’t mean they’re getting value- Nevo admits to being 80k in the hole on these bets in a six month period in his book and HF needed his last 2 wins to get in front again- let them all play, if you know your odds of winning and control your staking you’re getting better value than the high stakers.
This fallacy that the syndicates somehow have a huge edge in pool bets is beginning to get on my t*ts- quite simply as Chris Broom says today, their 2 quid line has the same chance as the small punter’s. Of course a syndicate is more likely to win it but that doesn’t mean they’re getting value- Nevo admits to being 80k in the hole on these bets in a six month period in his book and HF needed his last 2 wins to get in front again- let them all play, if you know your odds of winning and control your staking you’re getting better value than the high stakers.
Spot on; I keep banging my head against a brick wall trying to explain this one.
We banged heads on this subject concerning the scoop six Rory a while ago.
Having had login problems i couldn’t congratulate you on your win (nice one) but bonus aside did your return/stake beat a sp accer? i was cuious at the time.The failure of the Super7 to attract punters was demonstrated yesterday. With over £630k carried forward, the Tote managed to attract less than £26k of new money into the pool.
By the fifth leg, there were still 132 tickets live, but clearly 120 of those were held by one syndicate – there were 24 tickets on each of five runners in the Lingfield 3;25 and only 1 ticket on the winner of that race. He had McCoy in the 6th leg, end of bet.
Presumably the bet is suspended today in favour of the Scoop6 – here lies part of the problem, knowing when and where it’s available.
We banged heads on this subject concerning the scoop six Rory a while ago.
Having had login problems i couldn’t congratulate you on your win (nice one) but bonus aside did your return/stake beat a sp accer? i was cuious at the time.On that occasion UN, it did, and quite comfortably, but the general point about value on tote pools is valid enough ~ I see some poor sap won the Jackpot to £1 yesterday. The miserly £7.1k the tote guaranteed him doesn’t look pretty against the SP acca.
This fallacy that the syndicates somehow have a huge edge in pool bets is beginning to get on my t*ts- quite simply as Chris Broom says today, their 2 quid line has the same chance as the small punter’s. Of course a syndicate is more likely to win it but that doesn’t mean they’re getting value- Nevo admits to being 80k in the hole on these bets in a six month period in his book and HF needed his last 2 wins to get in front again- let them all play, if you know your odds of winning and control your staking you’re getting better value than the high stakers.
Spot on; I keep banging my head against a brick wall trying to explain this one.
As someone who bets £2 on the scoop6 (no perms), are you suggesting I have as much chance of winning as someone betting £2000 in various perms? I take your point about getting value but given we are talking 6 races chances of all your selections even getting a clear run are slim, let alone winning! Place part of it is not bad though, feel that is winnable.
I appreciate this may have been discussed previously (I have only been member here since turn of year).
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