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Even though Torando won’t be running, this could be the race of the season if the principles stand their ground:
Intello, Dawn Approach, Moonlight Cloud, Declaration of War, Elusive Kate, Gale Force Ten, Aljamaaheer, Olympic Glory…
The 13/8 about Intello (PP) looks quite attractive given that Dawn Approach had a hard race last week and Moonlight Cloud has always seemed better at less than a mile.
Lee
Even though Torando won’t be running, this could be the race of the season if the principles stand their ground:
Intello, Dawn Approach, Moonlight Cloud, Declaration of War, Elusive Kate, Gale Force Ten, Aljamaaheer, Olympic Glory…
The 13/8 about Intello (PP) looks quite attractive given that Dawn Approach had a hard race last week and Moonlight Cloud has always seemed better at less than a mile.
Lee
Fair point about Moonlight Cloud but you could equally argue about how much Intello has achieved at a mile. So you have two horses probably not running over their ideal trips and given that Dawn Approach has almost certainly peaked suddenly it doesn’t look quite such a strong event. Having said that no doubt it will be sold as three crack milers going to post.
I think Intello is still a talking horse more than anything else. He was dropped into group 3 company last time and is the French Derby form all that exciting?
There is no contest between him and Dawn Approach based on the number of Group 1s they have won and Dawn Approach is much more battle hardened at the top level. At the odds I’ll take Dawn Approach even though he’s been busy. He proved a lot when bouncing back after a nightmare Derby run to win at Royal Ascot soon after.
Intello is a horse who could still improve and be something really special but this looks tougher opposition than he has faced so far and I am not even remotely tempted at 13/8.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Dawn Approach would be my pick but he has had a very busy campaign and after Wednesday’s race to my untrained eye looked shattered. He’s a tough horse and Jim will say if he runs that he has been bucking and squalling and I hope he wins but I think they would be better off giving the horse a break so for me I’m leaving alone.
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I think Intello is a little more than a talking horse Stevie! 5 wins from 6 runs, unbeaten as a 2 year old, seriously impressive first time out this year at Newmarket, desperately unlucky in the French 2,000, a decisive winner of the French Derby and then given an easy prep for this race over the straight mile he will encounter on Sunday.
This is a very serious horse, for me the best in Europe and I expect him to prove it during the rest of the season.
Saying that I am worried about him taking on some brilliant horses over a trip that is probably slightly short of his best and think there is a risk he will get outpaced. However he HAS been aimed at this race and is relatively fresh compared to his two main rivals.
Moonlight Cloud is a wonderful mare with a great record over several trips and her mile win over Farhh last year reads better and better now. I hear the ground is riding quite quick at Deauville though and I think this might work against her.
Dawn Approach’s record speaks for itself and I have mistakenly written him off too many times to make that mistake again. Yes he had a tough race last week but he is a tough horse and out of the three main contenders, he is probably the only one running over his optimum trip.
So, at the odds, none of them really appeal to me at the moment and I will enjoy watching what should be a fantastic race.
I think Intello will prove to be the best horse but I am just not sure it will be over this trip.
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Fair play to Intello, he’s won 5 out of 6 races but he was a warm or hot favourite in five of them and I ask what has he beaten?
The Fielden stakes has seen only one winner from 16 runs and that was Alta Lilea who won a conditions race and a handicap, both over 1 1/2 miles and who was last seen chasing home Wild Coco over 1m 6f where she was described as one paced. That is hardly encouraging from a form perspective. The French 2000 Guineas was run on bottomless ground and Intello was indeed unlucky but was it that strong a race and how would he have fared on a faster surface?
I think Intello could have warmed up for the upcoming challenge in better company than getting weight from older horses in a group 3 and it didn’t tell me anything about the horse’s chances over 1 mile in the top races.
He has been a drifter in the Arc betting this last while and is out to 9/1 in some places now.
I think it could well be a race best watched but I feel there is enough doubt to oppose Intello at as low as 11/8 given that 10f may be his best trip and there is still a question that his form may not be top notch. He may well turn out to be the dogs danglers but he is not there yet, however, he is priced as if he already is in my opinion.
ps Intello is 2/1 second favourite for this race with Corals and I think Bet Victor should revise their 11/8 if they want any business.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Does Bolger over race his horses?
That depends on what you think should be achieved. If the horse is working well at home, they should run them in my opinion. This is a sport after all and I have had rather long rants on this forum about the commercial concerns outside the racetrack being a greater concern.
I think DA runs a risk of running flat this weekend, Moonlight Cloud also might find an easier target over shorter but would we really get excited about an exhibition round from Intello.
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Re-watch the Sussex Andyod and when Manning starts pushing at Dawn Approach see how long it takes him to get past the pacemaker. I’m sure Manning would have wanted him to go by a lot easier and quicker than the time it took.
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There is weakness in the front two with Dawn Approach and Intello both available at 9/4 now.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Oddscheker frequently down over the past few days, the following message coming up:
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Yes, same here, there is an alternative site, not as good but the name of it escapes me.
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Remembered, it’s called easyodds. Like I said not as good as oddschecker but handy at times when that site is down.
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Can’t give Dawn Approach away, gone 9/4. Think it’s an unreal price.
Key to the race is Elusive Kate, will set the race up perfectly for him.
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I have also noticed that oddschecker has been having a few glitches of late. I always keep it on when I’m watching the golf, and on Thursday I was running it during the first round of the PGA and noticed the prices of several bookmakers sites were well off what odds they actually were offering. Before someone tells me there is always a time lag from bookmaker to oddschecker, I am aware of this, but I am talking about periods up to 30 minutes where Mickelson was 22-1 when in actual fact he had dropped to between 14 and 16-1. You’ll get him at any price you like now…..he’s making a complete a**e of it.
This is a great pity as I have used their site for a very long time, in fact I’m never off it.I hope they get it sorted out.
As for the race tomorrow, I don’t see this as a two horse race between Dawn Approach and Intello, Moonlight Cloud has got just as big a shout. That being said, there are reasons already mentioned as to why the principles might not be primed for this, (DA returning from very hard race and Intello might want a bit further now) At the skinny prices offered I’m inclined to have an e/w punt on Olympic Glory. If you take away his last race he would most certainly be running with odds in single figures, not the 20-1 which is currently on offer. He went off 3-1 favourite for a £255,000 race at Longchamp last time. Although he was well down the field in 11th, he did not have a particularly good passage and was brought wide on the final bend which is not ideal at Longchamp. He did not pick up quickly enough, but was running on at the finish. Unbeaten as a 2yr old, except when a running on beaten 2nd to Dawn Approach, and a good winner on the Greenham on his return this year, surely gives him a serious chance of being involved in the finish. I don’t think Richard Hannon would send him over without thinking he had a chance.
You might get better odds on the paris mutual, but I think the 20-1 could well disappear, so I’m having some of that.
Good luck
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