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  • #300245
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    She set a course record last time out?! Never knew that :shock:

    Looked as she’d come on for it too. Personally I thought Byword was flattered by his proxomity to the filly and is a false favourite here as a result.

    #300247
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    Now you’re talkin’ ‘of’ times! :wink:

    We’ll have to wait to see form wise…it’s either good, bad or not quite up to it!

    ‘Fuisse’ tomoz might give some further pointers…

    They say that the camera never tells a lie…

    the clock? :shock:

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    Now you’re talkin’ ‘of’ times! :wink:

    We’ll have to wait to see form wise…it’s either good, bad or not quite up to it!

    ‘Fuisse’ tomoz might give some further pointers…

    They say that the camera never tells a lie…

    the clock? :shock:

    Well 2/1 early doors was very generous! :wink:

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    Twice Over appears the most likely winner, but he’s never one to inspire complete confidence.

    Glass Harmonium is the one I like at current odds, especially since most of the field have questions to answer regarding fitness and suitability.

    Mawatheeq is undoubtedly talented and open to improvement, but he will need to be 100%. Presvis is a difficult ride and Cavalryman has shown nothing to suggest this drop back in trip will suit.

    You wouldn’t rule Sir Michael coaxing more improvement out of Glass Harmonium and the horse won the Hampton Court here last year.

    He also holds an entry in the Hardwicke.

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    Calvaryman is by a top class 10f horse and he didn’t like Epsom. 12/1 is too big.

    #300485
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    Halling has sired nothing but decent types. Not a single top-class animal in 12-odd years at stud. Cavalryman’s the best he’s sired – says it all.

    #300492
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    I don’t think we’re gonna need a top class animal to win this edition.

    #300649
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    Perhaps the long overdue end-to-end gallop (at any rate, a stronger gallop than Dubai, Singapore or Hong Kong) will inspire Presvis, or is it too late? Sure am tempted at the price.

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    Presvis for me @ 10/1

    back on home soil, with pace in the race in a less than vintage race, worth a pop, gl.

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    It may not be vintage but it’s still a pretty classy affair…Cavalryman boasts top class form, 3rd in the Arc last year, arguably the best in this field (better than Twice Over winning the Champion Stakes perhaps)? Was noticeably short of room when keeping on behind Fame and Glory in the Coronation, and track probably didn’t suit this powerful, big horse. I think he has a massive chance in this at 11/1. Glass Harmonium for the ew bet, C&D form is always handy and has the best jockey around at present.

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    Mawatheeq

    , one of Twice Over’s biggest threats in that race, has also been brought back to the boil slowly this year, but despite working well enough is thought to be likely to need the race by trainer Marcus Tregoning, who believes

    ‘Fatanah’

    (Ribblesdale Stakes) could be his best chance of success at the royal meeting. She will be again ridden positively."

    Mmmm!
    You’d have to think that Tazeez has been put in as pacemaker for Mawatheeq – drawn in the next box too, which would hardly be an hindrance.

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    I think BYWORD may have improvement in him yet and with this looking a poor renewal he may just prove too classy for the rest….

    #301007
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    If searching for that proven top-class runner in the Prince Of Wales’ then yes, this is a weaker renewal than the norm.

    But the race gives back in terms of competitiveness. At least seven of these would not be out of place winning a Group 1. Debussy, Tazeez, Wiener Walzer are not dyed-in-the-wool journeymen either.

    I have bet Presvis and Tazeez, both generously over the odds.

    #301052
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    Only 1 front runner has won in the past 15 so that puts me off TAZEEZ.

    #301079
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    My 100% book:

    Byword 100/30,

    Mawaatheeq

    11/2, Twice Over 6/1,

    Cavalryman

    17/2,

    Glass Harmonium

    11/1, Presvis 14/1,

    Allybar

    15/1,

    Wiener Walzer

    15/1, Shalanaya 15/1, Tazeez 80/1, Debussy 80/1, Stimulation 400/1

    Value Is Everything
    #301101
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    I think you need to stop pricing the outsiders up in that range Ginge. You had Dream Eater at 500/1 yesterday.

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    I read here 9/2 is huge about Twice Over and it may prove to be correct.

    My own opinion of the horse is that Henry and TQ pulled off a miracle with him last season……..the horse could be written off in an instance in any race he ran in until Henry dropped him down in class and let him play school boy bully for a couple of races.

    Prior to that Twice Over was a always a certainty to run well but also a near certainty to get beat if any other top class animal was around.

    He proved no match for Zenyatta but then what could? but he then ran a stinker in Meydan and that worries me big time.

    I suppose it’s all down to how you view the standard in this race but I’m pretty confident this will be another run well found 1 or 2 too good for him days.

    BYWORD looks the likely fav but I don’t like the form of horses that peak early and I think Byword might find the Ascot competition a bit tougher than what he has faced to date. Granted his 2nd to Goldikova reads well but when she runs something has to fnish 2nd and she’d most likely have needed that run….Not for me!!

    PREVIS could win anything on his day and I did get a little whisper he’s the one to be backing…I’m sorely tempted to get stuck in but with SMS sending Glass Harmonium my intention was to back him EW

    Previs to win and Glass Harmonium place on the machine for me…..plus rfc for fun
    My fav horse from the Stoute yard…..Glass Harmonium

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