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There is an element of corruption in all sports. Unfortuanetly horse racing is particulary wide open to it!
Is horse racing any more "wide open" than any other? I’d say not.
With racing you have a beast who can not be told what to do, without doping being found out. Our governing body is well used to the tricks of the trade and is asked for advice by other less knowing sports on how to combat skulduggery.Much easier to persuade a human with no animal involved. Snooker or tennis player to miss a few shots, footballer to let a striker through, cricketer to give a wicket away/drop catches/bowl badly etc etc.
Value Is EverythingThe reality is that much of the information we receive is intelligence and will not therefore be enough to take action. However, gathering and assessing intelligence allows the Integrity Team to take a proactive, intelligence-led approach and take action, whether that’s investigating or disrupting ("putting the wind up them" as Drone puts it).
I can understand not wanting to name on here, though don’t think it’s especially helpful posting unsubstantiated claims, without at least informing us through one of the above channels.
I’m sure the contact details you’ve supplied will prove useful Silvoir
My post was intended more at "putting the wind up" the tiresome OP really
"don’t think it’s especially helpful posting unsubstantiated claims" indeed, never a truer word spoken
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The reality is that much of the information we receive is intelligence and will not therefore be enough to take action. However, gathering and assessing intelligence allows the Integrity Team to take a proactive, intelligence-led approach and take action, whether that’s investigating or disrupting ("putting the wind up them" as Drone puts it).
I can understand not wanting to name on here, though don’t think it’s especially helpful posting unsubstantiated claims, without at least informing us through one of the above channels.
I’m sure the contact details you’ve supplied will prove useful Silvoir
My post was intended more at "putting the wind up" the tiresome OP really
"don’t think it’s especially helpful posting unsubstantiated claims" indeed, never a truer word spoken
My god, drone, you are well named.
‘Put the wind up?’ Where was the crime? The horse won. Do try and pay attention to what people write or I may end up concluding you just like the sound o’ your own voice!Much easier to persuade a human with no animal involved. Snooker or tennis player to miss a few shots, footballer to let a striker through, cricketer to give a wicket away/drop catches/bowl badly etc etc.
Not so sure that is true. There are any number of ways a jockey could lose a race – slowly away, allowing a horse to run too freely, running up the backs of other horses/making sure a horse is boxed in ,pretending to make an effort, delaying a challenge until it is obviously too late are just a few. The horse isn’t going to win the race on its own. The problem is being able to tell the difference between incompetence and cheating and then being able to prove it. With the current bunch of jockeys it is almost impossible.
‘Put the wind up?’ Where was the crime? The horse won. Do try and pay attention to what people write or I may end up concluding you just like the sound o’ your own voice!
Pleni
There is a bright side to everything! Indeed courtesy of Silvoir you now have a handy set of options for the skulldugery you spot tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after tha….
Think of all those baddies you can rat on without having to bother the likes of us doubters.
Rob
I can only assume that the bale of hay was wearing a member’s badge as it sauntered into the pre-parade ring otherwise some vigilant racecourse security person would have refused it entry.
Much easier to persuade a human with no animal involved. Snooker or tennis player to miss a few shots, footballer to let a striker through, cricketer to give a wicket away/drop catches/bowl badly etc etc.
Not so sure that is true. There are any number of ways a jockey could lose a race – slowly away, allowing a horse to run too freely, running up the backs of other horses/making sure a horse is boxed in ,pretending to make an effort, delaying a challenge until it is obviously too late are just a few. The horse isn’t going to win the race on its own. The problem is being able to tell the difference between incompetence and cheating and then being able to prove it. With the current bunch of jockeys it is almost impossible.
You’ve missed the best one of all which is making a challenge too
early
. A select few jockeys employ this one to considerable effect at Wolverhampton in particular.
"Plenipotentiary" wrote: The horse ate a bale of hay. He might not have done it in a few minutes but rest assured he did it.
Must be some horse!!
My god, drone, you are well named.
‘Put the wind up?’ Where was the crime? The horse won. Do try and pay attention to what people write or I may end up concluding you just like the sound o’ your own voice!It’s intent that determines whether a crime has been committed:
mens rea
and
actus reus
in legalese. A crime is a crime whether successful or not
As it happens I do like the sound of my own voice: my drone is a rather pleasant baritone and has been complemented upon many a time
With a little coaching at a tender age I could have earnt a steady living doing Crosby and Sinatra covers at holiday camps and WMCs the country over
My Guinness-fuelled renditions of ‘Strangers in the Night’ and ‘Summer Wind’ have ladies (and quite a few gentlemen) swooning off their bar stools
I do however endeavour to compose my prose on internet message boards when sober
As it happens I do like the sound of my own voice: my drone is a rather pleasant baritone and has been complemented upon many a time
Presumably by a tenor and a bass
Where is it in the rules of racing that horses are not allowed to eat hay the day of a race? If allowed are specific quantities defined?
Cheers.
Well spotted Cav.
Only normal food and water to be given on the day of race:
Now there’s an idea:
Please welcome – the QIPCO Champions Day Barbershop Quartet!
It would certainly be better than that video they’ve got doing the rounds (which features Canford Cliffs I do believe – that would be some comeback!)
Only normal food and water to be given on the day of race:
Does the BHA have a strict definition of what constitutes "normal feed" on race day?
Does it include hay and polo mints for example?
Out of interest is hay a regular and important part of the racehorse diet?
On my few visits to racing stables the horses seemed to be fed all sorts of rather moreish-looking ‘artificial’ concentrates and electrolytes but I don’t recall seeing bales of hay, though I wasn’t paying particular attention
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Please welcome – the QIPCO Champions Day Barbershop Quartet!
Good idea.
Pinza
‘s happy to volunteer as the Bass, to
Drone
‘s Baritone. You may well know that the horse of this name took his moniker from the great operatic bass singer, Ezio Pinza.
Any takers for the two top lines?
Plenty of Castrati on TRF nowadays, so filling the top register shouldn’t be a problem
Please welcome – the QIPCO Champions Day Barbershop Quartet!
Good idea.
Pinza
‘s happy to volunteer as the Bass, to
Drone
‘s Baritone. You may well know that the horse of this name took his moniker from the great operatic bass singer, Ezio Pinza.
Any takers for the two top lines?
Well, ok.
But no numbers in Latin alright?!
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But no numbers in Latin alright?!
Al contrario, Latino
numbers only. With
Stilvi
on Bongos. Nobody better at those hypnotic, repetitive
mambo-jambo
rhythms!
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