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  • #345874
    Robert Gibbs
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    All was going well until the last race at Cheltenham, and one out at the other two as well.

    Cheltenham

    Leg 1 – 10 Molotof, 15 Smad Place, 23 Unaccompanied
    Leg 2 – 8 Alaivan, 15 Dirar, 19 Zanir, 21 Spring Jim
    Leg 3 – 3 Bobs Worth, 5 Court In Motion
    Leg 4 – 5 Imperial Commander, 14 What A Friend
    Leg 5 – 13 On The Fringe, 15 Oscatello
    Leg 6 – 3 Astracad, 10 Siberian Tiger, 11 Sir Des Champs

    162 x 10p lines = £16.20

    #346263
    Avatar photoTuffers
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    Apologies for hijacking your thread, Robert, but I thought as I probably won’t do a jackpot again this year it wasn’t worth its own thread. Anyway, I thought I’d have a crack at tomorrow’s jackpot. I’ve never been one for picking more than one horse in a race so here’s my jackpot selections:

    Leg 1 – Topolski
    Leg 2 – Rimini
    Leg 3 – Sawpit Solitaire
    Leg 4 – Misstree Dancer
    Leg 5 – Maizy Missile
    Leg 6 – Canshebemine

    #346268
    Anonymous
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    Apologies for hijacking your thread, Robert, but I thought as I probably won’t do a jackpot again this year it wasn’t worth its own thread. Anyway, I thought I’d have a crack at tomorrow’s jackpot. I’ve never been one for picking more than one horse in a race so here’s my jackpot selections:

    Leg 1 – Topolski
    Leg 2 – Rimini
    Leg 3 – Sawpit Solitaire
    Leg 4 – Misstree Dancer
    Leg 5 – Maizy Missile
    Leg 6 – Canshebemine

    Watch your bet 2moro Tuffers as im certain Rimini ran today at Ffos Las so he may be a Non Runner. Ive lost count of the times a NR has cost me a PP when the fav takes a nosedive…good luck

    #346303
    Robert Gibbs
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    Damn you! I was going to let this thread disappear into oblivion and the it pops back to the top! :lol:

    The irony is I managed to get the Uttoxeter placepot today.

    Anyway I will put up one line for the jackpot, it doesn’t look the hardest card in the world :wink:

    Leg 1 – Topolski
    Leg 2 – American World
    Leg 3 – Yvonne Evelyn
    Leg 4 – Fin Vin De Leu
    Leg 5 – Gilt Free
    Leg 6 – Flying Award

    #346308
    Anonymous
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    Consider this:

    You have a hypothetical race with four runners as follows:

    1 – BISMARCK, win probability 45%
    2 – TIRPITZ, win probability 30%
    3 – SCHARNHORST, win probability 20%
    4 – GNEISENAU, win probability 5%

    and the race immediately after with also four runners like this:

    1 – YUM YUM, win probability 35%
    2 – PIP BO, win probability 30%
    3 – PITI SING, win probability 25%
    4 – KO KO, win probability 10%

    There follow four more legs to make the placepot, which I omit for brevity.

    If you play for those two races the (1,2) x (1,2) your chance of going through is (0.45+0.30)x(0.35+0.30) = 0.75×0.65 = 0.4875 = 48.75%.
    It’s 4 lines, namely (1,1), (1,2), (2,1), (2,2).

    But if you play instead (1,1), (1,2), (1,3) and (2,1) the probability is 52%.
    Because 0.45×0.35 + 0.45×0.30 + 0.45×0.25 + 0.30×0.35 = 0.1575 + 0.135 + 0.1125 + 0.105 = 0.52 = 52%.

    So you know how to work out the likely winners or each ways for each leg, but you don’t know what are the correct lines to play.
    The error magnifies as you add legs (races).
    For six legs you are about 20% or more in error I should think.

    #346328
    Avatar photoTuffers
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    Apologies for hijacking your thread, Robert, but I thought as I probably won’t do a jackpot again this year it wasn’t worth its own thread. Anyway, I thought I’d have a crack at tomorrow’s jackpot. I’ve never been one for picking more than one horse in a race so here’s my jackpot selections:

    Leg 1 – Topolski
    Leg 2 – Rimini
    Leg 3 – Sawpit Solitaire
    Leg 4 – Misstree Dancer
    Leg 5 – Maizy Missile
    Leg 6 – Canshebemine

    Well there are two non-runners amongst my selections so I’ll have to have Midnight Appeal for leg 2 and Aldertune in leg 4 so the whole thing now reads:

    Leg 1 – Topolski
    Leg 2 – Midnight Appeal
    Leg 3 – Sawpit Solitaire
    Leg 4 – Aldertune
    Leg 5 – Maizy Missile
    Leg 6 – Canshebemine

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