November 27, 2018 at 14:24 #1387237
I know its jump season now but there are lots of all weather flat racing going on. I love this time of the year, since I don’t follow jump, I can quietly follow the AW races and pick some good horses for next year. Last year, I was very impressed with ‘Without Parole’ on his December debut in Newcastle and took a note of him in the diary. That horse went onto win the St James Palace Stakes in next summer.
So the idea of this thread is to pick horses from current AW season whom you think will come good next year.
I will start with mine:
Red Impression – For 1000 Guineas. Very impressed with this Roger Charlton filly who is 2/2 now and won impressively.
Zakouski – Shamardal colt who made an impressive debut last week in Kempton Park beating favorite Headman.
Moonlight Spirit – Another Godolphin horse who made an impressive debut in newcastle last week. This son of Dubawi may head to Dubai now and should run in Craven next year if every thing goes good.
Rainbow Heart – Though she never ran in AW but ran 2 very impressive races in newmarket at the fag end of the season. Owned by Sunderland Holdings, trained by William Haggas and running style very similar to ‘Sea of Class’
She’s Got You – Kingman Filly won impressively in Wolverhampton. Trained by Johnie G and owned by Gunther Family (Same owner as Without Parole)
Sucellus – Looked very impressive on his debut race in Wolverhampton. Oppenhiemer owned horse in Cracksman colour and trained by John Gosden. He looks like a derby prospect to me and should run next in Dante next April. (Watch out for this horse)
Vasiliev – CG Cox trained horse ran a good 2nd in his debut Kempton race. Don’t think he will be a group 1 horse but may run well in listed races next year.
New King – Son of frankel & owned by Qatar racing in the same colour as Roaring lion. Ran 4th in debut race but won in 2nd start impressively coming from behind. Trained by Johny G.
These are my picks for now. I will add more as the season progress.November 27, 2018 at 17:23 #1387252jackh1092Participant
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Austin, i haven’t looked at it a whole lot i won’t lie, but the ones you have already mentioned have looked the best to me so far!
Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!November 28, 2018 at 05:52 #1387280
Interesting Thread Austin and Jack and Darren also have very interesting 2yo Threads in the Trends, Research and notebooks section, so welcome aboard and hope your AW observations will get us through the Winter to the Craven Meeting
I was there to see Rainbow Heart win her race at Newmarket Austin and she is a lovely filly but she did drop in class to win that race and would prefer the fillies that beat her in her first race …
Qabala and Desirous, both extremely impressive pulling away from the field up the hill.
Sea Of Class is my filly to follow next year and I think she’ll mop up but Haggas must be cursing that Enable stays in training.
10O% agree on Red Impression she has some motor and Journey Of Life who she beat so well had some pretty useful form.
Good luck with the Thread.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...November 28, 2018 at 06:40 #1387281
Here’s one for today Austin at Wolverthampton..
Firebird Song 3/1
Trained by Charlie Appleby
Ridden by George Wood
I had a really good look at this filly when I was at Newmarket for the final meeting and she is definitely work in progress still with a lot of growing to do.
She came up against a leviathon of a filly in
Feliciana De Vega who won the race easily and is a notebook horse for me to follow next season.
Firebird Song ran an extremely brave race being green in the first stages and then short of room but when she started to motor towards the end of the race she made up a lot of ground and made an impressive start to her career considering her stature. Looking forward to seeing her progress for that run later today.
Guarantee she won’t start 3/1…. JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...November 28, 2018 at 13:01 #1387299
Yeah good pick Triptych
He might get tough fight from John Gosden trained Frankel filly Frisella though.November 28, 2018 at 14:51 #1387306Nathan HughesParticipant
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Well done with Firebird Song, Jac….
The horse done really well to win that, my ticket was screwed up ready for the bin.
I’ll have to iron it now.Don't Eat The Pie and Don't Buy The S*nNovember 28, 2018 at 14:52 #1387307
Thanks Nathan That was impressive she quickened nicely and she’s one to keep on board for next seasonThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...November 28, 2018 at 15:03 #1387309hein bollowParticipant
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Fantastic Jac, you are really a genius
I must admit I trusted you on her and jumped on this train, as I know how well you can read Newmarket forms
I even waited till the last moment and got the 3/1 again
Very well done, and thank you very much!November 28, 2018 at 15:15 #1387312
So glad you saw my post and trusted what I saw at beginning of the month at Newmarket. She looked so small and unfinished that day and has come on leaps and bounds really quickly as I hoped she would.
Must admit heart was in mouth when the Frankel filly struck for home but that strong finish up the hill at Newmarket had helped her and she breezed home.
The filly who beat her at Newmarket Feliciana De Vega already looks like a 3yo she’s a beauty and one to keep in your notebooks.
Glad you got that 3/1 Hein and hope you did too Nathan JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...November 28, 2018 at 20:41 #1387335raymo61Participant
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Jac you bugger Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I backed the second each way at 66/1 !!
Well done though Said through gritted teeth LOLNovember 28, 2018 at 22:30 #1387340
Thanks Raymo and well done yourself that’s still 13/1 for a place and I sort of feel your pain
Think Firebird Song will be even better next time she runs as she didn’t have the best of starts and she’s clearly taken to the AW, although I think she’ll be off to Dubai now to finish growing and come back here in the Spring JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...December 10, 2018 at 19:18 #1388791darren83Participant
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Nice thread this is I put up a 50/1 shot who won tonight on AW for 1000guineas I think she looks very good even though form not the strongest any views trip or others here.
Do you guys think Red Impression be more a sprinter than one for 1m races
This good thread as well.December 12, 2018 at 14:17 #1388876
Added few more horses in my initial list on OP, please have a read and let me know your thoughts.
She’s Got You
New KingDecember 12, 2018 at 18:59 #1388889darren83Participant
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SHE’S GOT YOU
Is the one I put up in 1000 guineas thread see 50/1 I was expecting 33/1 myself but happy with that long term she be a very good one at 1mDecember 13, 2018 at 09:26 #1388981jackh1092Participant
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Austin some interesting sectionals and figures on New King + Sucellus from Simon Rowlands.
Worth reading, and perhaps having a comparison with other juveniles.
I will probably do that once the old articles are accessible on the ATR site…currently “page not displayed”
Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!
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