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    Avatar photoKris
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    I’m assuming here that City Of Troy won’t run, but he’s obviously the one for me if he if he did.

    I can’t remember what kind of ap market there usually is, but I don’t think I’d touch the race just now anyway. The other ones that interest me are Ylang Ylang, Matrika, and Porta Fortuna

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    I would be surprised if City Of Troy was declared – dropping to 6f seems unlikely for him.

    I would expect River Tiber to be aimed at this race.

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    #1659128
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    12 declared.

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    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/phoenix-sprint-stakes/winner

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    #1659165
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    Weight-for-gender adjusted OR for this –

    River Tiber 111
    Bucanero Fuerte 111
    Unquestionable 110
    Porta Fortuna 109
    Valiant Force 108
    Givemethebeatboys 106
    His Majesty 104
    Alabama 98
    Johannes Brahms 98
    Gaenari 96
    Launch 85
    The Caribbean 84

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    #1659182
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    Bucanero Fuerte is a horse I’ve been keen on from day 1. He was a
    huge price imo, 16/1, for the Coventry and was probably drawn on
    the wrong side when a running on 3rd. He showed real determination
    to get up on the line from the O’Brien fav Unquestionable in a good
    time in the Railway Stakes at the Curragh.

    William Hill are the only bookie at this moment offering prices on the
    race and have him down at 9/2. I think that’s reasonable but I’m going
    to chance hanging on until morning to see what anyone else or the
    exchange are offering.

    Bucanero Fuerte 9/2 William Hill at the moment.

    #1659236
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    Decided not to hang about with the 9/2 with William Hill.
    Betfair and Paddy Power have opened their book but have
    him as 2/1 fav. I doubt I’d get any higher elsewhere

    Bucanero Fuerte 9/2 with William Hill

    #1659238
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    Makes you wonder if PP/BSB have heard River Tiber isn’t a certain runner.

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    #1659240
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    Some difference of opinion between the bookies
    5/2 River Tiber with PP whilst as short as 11/8 with another
    I won’t be playing him until final decs as it certainly does make you wonder like Ian has said.

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    #1659261
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    Well they seem to have all disappeared at the moment, the racingpost had
    Paddy Power going 9/4 the top 3, although I can’t find anything on their
    site. It will be interesting to see what is still standing in the morning.
    I suspect that O’Brian won’t run both River Tiber and Unquestionable and
    I’d lean towards River Tiber missing this one as Ian suspects.

    #1659262
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    AOB plan yesterday…

    Unquestionable – Phoenix Stakes
    River Tiber – Prix Morny

    #1659267
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    Thanks for that Mike, Chezza had already sniffed out River Tiber going
    AWOL.

    #1659275
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    Bucanero Fuerte
    Unquestionable
    Porta Fortuna
    Givemethebeatboys
    His Majesty
    Gaenari
    Launch
    -7 declared-

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    #1659288
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    Listen to your Uncle Ian (River Tiber out) and your Uncle Graham (9/2 about a 9/4 chance).

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    #1659378
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    I’ve went with Porta Fortuna at 3-1

    #1659381
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    This is too close to call. I’ll just watch.

    #1659428
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    If the ground eases a little I don’t see Unquestionable getting the better of the Buc. Porta Fortuna is the stick in the works. I’ll wait to see what conditions are and if there is yielding in the description then a match bet (dependent on prices) could be on the cards.

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