The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

Phillip Hobbs

Home Forums Horse Racing Phillip Hobbs

Viewing 12 posts - 1 through 12 (of 12 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #23829
    no idea
    Member
    • Total Posts 684

    He is having a bad run at the minute.
    No winner since the 24th March.
    Is there somthing wrong with his string.
    I know some of his horses have run OK but a lot are under performing.
    He as a couple of fancied runners today at Ascot but am loathe to back his horses at the minute

    #435661
    Avatar photophil walker
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1374

    I’m thinking the same thing about the Donald McCain horses, they’ve had one or two winners but are otherwise having a very quiet time of it recently.

    #435674
    Avatar photoMarkTT
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3080

    I never understand the gambles on the Hobbs horses in the National. Monkerhostin was backed in from 20’s to about 8’s or 10’s.

    The stable doesn’t have the horses they once did and novices don’t seem to progress as expected. A few seasons ago he was having 30 winners in March and April. That’s been steadily dropping and he’s now on 5 for those two months.

    #435677
    Avatar photoGingertipster
    Participant
    • Total Posts 34704

    Every trainer gets a bug now and again and NI is right.

    Quinz was taken out of the Grand National at a late stage with a "bad scope".

    http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra … t7DaysNews

    There may well be a bug going through the yard at the moment. Menorah ran well but a lot haven’t.

    Balthazar King may run a better race next year

    IF

    he misses the Cheltenham Festival and goes there fresh.

    Value Is Everything
    #435679
    Avatar photoMarkTT
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3080

    Don’t think he jumps well enough for the National. Stays well enough in the Cross Country but many of those obstacles don’t have any substance.

    Chicago Grey was a terrible selection from Pricewise for similar reasons. Just does not jump well enough

    #435688
    Avatar photogrey dolphin
    Participant
    • Total Posts 650

    You don’t need to jump well any more. Just isn’t fast enough would be my assessment. You need a Scottish National type for the new national. It’s just a relentless gallop.

    #435690
    stilvi
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5228

    Take out the three high profile but difficult to predict Whateley horses – Captain Chris, Wishful Thinking and Menorah – and things have been poor for a considerable time. What’s worse is that there doesn’t appear to be any young stock coming through – results in bumpers and novice hurdles have been pretty abismal. Hard to believe you would be rushing to have a horse with Hobbs given his current results. As for Balthazar King did Dickie Johnson think he was in the Topham?

    #435692
    Avatar photoGingertipster
    Participant
    • Total Posts 34704

    Don’t think he jumps well enough for the National. Stays well enough in the Cross Country but many of those obstacles don’t have any substance.

    Chicago Grey was a terrible selection from Pricewise for similar reasons. Just does not jump well enough

    Were you looking at the same race as me Mark? :?
    Balthazar King is one of the best jumpers in the country, only mistake yesterday when tired. He also jumped well (other than diving at the 13th) when winning over conventional fences at Cheltenham in October.

    Agree about Chicago Grey and said as much in my preview. Winning 4 runner races are poor form guides to winning a Grand National.

    Value Is Everything
    #435695
    Avatar photoGingertipster
    Participant
    • Total Posts 34704

    You don’t need to jump well any more. Just isn’t fast enough would be my assessment. You need a Scottish National type for the new national. It’s just a relentless gallop.

    Not true GD.

    Two of the best jumpers going in to yesterdays field were second and third Cappa Bleu, Teaforthree. Winner Auroras Encore made a couple of minor errors, but generally jumped well, as did 5th Rare Bob.

    Good jumpers still do exceptionally well in the National GD.
    Is it best for poor jumpers to fall?
    Or is it best they take energy out of themselves when hitting the fence and eventually pulled up?

    Value Is Everything
    #435697
    Avatar photoMarkTT
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3080

    Good jumpers still do exceptionally well in the National GD.
    Is it best for poor jumpers to fall?
    Or is it best they take energy out of themselves when hitting the fence and eventually pulled up?

    That’s why BK will never win a National. Has stamina but it takes too much out of him jumping those fences.

    As for Hobbs, he appears to have stopped buying the Prescott and other flat cast offs and gone for NH types, but they’re not good enough or don’t progress. Those good Whateley horses mentioned – does anyone know when they’ll run well ? Their form is bizarre.

    #435731
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
    Blocked
    • Total Posts 2064

    Something that bothers me about Phillip Hobbs is how few of his stable stars actually survive through to retirement. Of course, the recent tragic loss of Fair Along could have happened to any horse at any time, but the list is quite shocking when you think about it.

    The careers of many of those who survived were punctuated by serious injuries. I know that the breed is getting more fragile, but this trend would dissuade me from sending horses to Phillip Hobbs as an owner.

    RIP

    Rooster Booster
    Detroit City
    Farmer Jack
    Dr Leunt
    Fair Along
    Featherbed Lane
    According To Dick

    Serious Injuries

    Lacdoudal
    One Knight
    Monkerhostin
    Fingal Bay
    Wellbeing
    What’s Up Boys
    Massini’s Maguire
    Cheltenian
    Made In Japan
    Copper Bleu

    #435738
    no idea
    Member
    • Total Posts 684

    Village Vic ran a strange race today.
    Appeared to be going well then came off the bride and under pressure before the 3rd last before staying on well near the finish without ever looking like winning.
    Very disappointing considering it did have the best form in the race.

Viewing 12 posts - 1 through 12 (of 12 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.