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I’m going to try and take Ladbrokes 6/1 Racing Demon tomorrow, hoping I’m not Pricewised. He’d have something in hand of these at the weights on his last win in this race and no better woman than Hen to produce him at his peak to win a race she has farmed.
Touch wood this looks quite easy and a good value race to play in.
At the weights it looks like a straight shoot out between Racing Demon and Tidal Bay. Tidal Bay has become a bit frustrating and on grounds of value I will go for Racing Demon as my main bet with just a saver on TB.
Racing Demon – 3pts WIN @ 6/1 (Ladbrokes)
Tidal Bay – 1pt WIN @ 3/1 (William Hill)I think 10/3 RD, 11/4 TB would be a more accurate reflection of their chances.
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If you asked the trainers which horse they feared most I think they would all plummet for Racing Deamon at these weights if the rumours are true but doing it at home and doing it on the race course against horses like these isn’t the same thing. He could win but I am not prepared to take the gamble.
The ground is drying out but it was nearer soft than good yesterday so Aleberta’s Run could run a stinker if the ground remained the same, despite Jonjo fancying the backside off him. I agree with what the man says, he’ll take all the beating if he runs up to his latest form, but nothing alters the fact he’s a much better horse on good ground.
Christian Williams keeps the ride on Herecomesthetruth and Ruby has gone to Taunton but who wouldn’t want to ride Recif De Thaix? He looks a stone wall certainty today and one for the big time in the future. Hope they go evens and cover my bet for this
I would imagine CW will set them a merry gallop here so you want a horse who travels and jumps well if you are going to have a chance of winning.That is about as far away as you can get to decribing Tidal Bay. Despite the weights I’m not convinced his half decent run last time merits him being favourite.
I say half decent because just about everything bar him and the winner needed the run and something hadto finish 2nd. The truth is he beat didly squat that day and the winnerwas way too good for him.
Evan Williams has voiced his concerns about the step up in class and the ground. He’d be less affected by the ground than Alberta’s Run would IMO. However he is the one horse who should not be affected by any scorching pace the PN front runner sets. If you can keep tabs on Ollie Magern on a going day you can keep tabs on anything.
The trip may be a concern to some but with the likely strong pace and if there’s not too much cut in the ground I think it will play to his strengths. He lacks nothing in class and if he travels as well as he normally does he will be right there at the death.
Deep Purple is a very decent price at 6/1 so I have backed him EW as I do fear Alberta’s Run if the ground ends up nearer good than soft.
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I think it would be dangerous to underrate Albertas Run’s Ascot win, he beat proven gd1/gd2 horses convincingly and (possibly VPU apart) would probably have beaten them off levels anyway, and it’s difficult to find much better good ground 2.5m form anywhere in this field
After that race, his owner’s manager was reported as saying; “I think ground, rather than distance, is the key to him, as all his best performances have come on a decent surface” and his form certainly supports that view.
Of the others, Tidal Bay doesn’t jump well enough to be a serious contender round this sharp track, Herecomesthetruth has yet to show he’s good enough, and Tartak and Racing Demon have yet to show they’re out of the wilderness, so I’ll be backing Alberta’s, with Deep Purple as insurance.Meant to ask you something Reet. How come almost every big race you and I think roughly the same way? Either we’re both good judges or we’re both nuts
Guess we’ll find out this afternoon 
I’m surprised some people question Tidal Bay’s attitude.
He has an awkward head carriage (the equine version of Paula Radcliffe), but I consider his tenacity his greatest attribute. He put up one of the most admirable weight carrying performances of last season when lugging top weight around Wetherby over three miles, despite never jumping or travelling with any consistency.
He’s got more natural speed (and ability) than anything in the field and if – IF – he jumps with any fluency, they won’t get anywhere near him, especially those giving him 10lbs. He jumps well enough, but he has a nasty habit of bunny-hopping his fences and he just doesn’t get away from them quickly enough.
I do not consider him a betting proposition, but this is as good a chance as he will get all season. I just hope his jumping gives him a chance.
I’m surprised some people question Tidal Bay’s attitude.
He has an awkward head carriage (the equine version of Paula Radcliffe), but I consider his tenacity his greatest attribute. He put up one of the most admirable weight carrying performances of last season when lugging top weight around Wetherby over three miles, despite never jumping or travelling with any consistency.
I thought he ran like a pig myself that day
I’ve never understood quite why people get so excited by a horse carrying 11-12 and running an ok race
Racing demon will be ready for this race, it’s Henrietta Knights bread and butter. Carrying 11st against this field it’s thumping good value at 6/1. Tidal bay is entitled to run well but not for me at these prices, the horse has a habit of catching the eye while losing. Deep purple looks the danger but I can’t allow RD to go off without my money at 6/1, surely one of the best 6/1 shots you are likely to come accross.
Tidal Bay for me. He should like the flat track and he has a bit of class. None of these were fast enough to win an Arkle as novices.
Admittedly he has been a bit hit and miss since his novice season but to my eye he ran well on seasonal debut in the Old Roan. His price of around 11-4 is fair as I’d say he’s more a 5-2 chance imo. The fact he is receiving 10lb from some of these adds to his chances…I’d fancy him off levels for this.
Far too many question marks on a lot of these – Racing Demon with fitness, Tidal Bay with his in and out performances this last year, Albertas Run with slightly softer ground and 10lb to contend with, Deep Purple with the ground…Herecomesthetruth has won 8 of his 12 races and apart from pulling up 2 starts ago, has won all of his chases and is by far the most progressive horse in the race; could easily improve again and beat the seasoned chasers here.
Tough race to call in my opinion.
Racing Demon is a horse who is a favourite of mine, he is simply much better going right handed, has won the race twice before, and definately has to be respected.
Deep Purple ran a very good race in the Charlie Hall and has been laid out for this race by Evan Williams, so you would think, with that in mind, that he should be there or there abouts.
Herecomesthetruth was always a horse i liked when he was a novice, he won some good races, but always looked very green. He seems to have adapted himself very well, and his defeat of Forpadydeplasterer at Down Royal isn’t bad form considering Forpadydeplasterer was behind Twist Magic at the weekend.
Tidal Bay has speed and agility, the nagging doubt has always been his jumping. It is the horses first time at Huntingdon today and will be interesting to see how he acts, i think the course will suit his speed to be honest.
Then you have Albertas Run, who has won over all kinds of distances. His lastest win at Ascot being impressive, and he is another one that is in with a good chance. He beat some very good horses at Ascot last time out, and the ground today should suit.
Very tough race to call, wouldnt suprise me at all if Herecomesthetruth won this today, it is a step up in class for the horse today, but i think he has a lot of ability, and at 5/1, he would be my bet.
I’m surprised some people question Tidal Bay’s attitude.
He has an awkward head carriage (the equine version of Paula Radcliffe),
More Michael Johnson Bos! Some may even say Gladstone Small!!
Just to let you know guys, it has been raining overnight in Peterborough so i imagine that the ground will be on the soft side.
I think it would be dangerous to underrate Albertas Run’s Ascot win, he beat proven gd1/gd2 horses convincingly and (possibly VPU apart) would probably have beaten them off levels anyway, and it’s difficult to find much better good ground 2.5m form anywhere in this field
After that race, his owner’s manager was reported as saying; “I think ground, rather than distance, is the key to him, as all his best performances have come on a decent surface” and his form certainly supports that view.
Of the others, Tidal Bay doesn’t jump well enough to be a serious contender round this sharp track, Herecomesthetruth has yet to show he’s good enough, and Tartak and Racing Demon have yet to show they’re out of the wilderness, so I’ll be backing Alberta’s, with Deep Purple as insurance.Meant to ask you something Reet. How come almost every big race you and I think roughly the same way? Either we’re both good judges or we’re both nuts
Guess we’ll find out this afternoon Or could it be,you have both been converted by “The King” into fans of Albertas run!Just watch him in the king George again! He cant possibly give 10lb to Tidal Bay today!!
Alberta’s jumped terribly, as did Tidal Bay, Racing Demon not fit, Deep Purple won quite well but Herecomesthetruth would’ve pushed him if he hadn’t unseated – my other selection Tartak did well to finish 2nd despite some bad jumps. Good race and Deep Purple is a chaser to be reckoned with at both 3 and 2 and a half miles.
SP’s
Deep Purple 12/1
Tartak 8/1Can’t believe DP was that big, well done that man whoever tipped him up, and i’ll take a bow for tipping up the 2nd
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I think it would be dangerous to underrate Albertas Run’s Ascot win, he beat proven gd1/gd2 horses convincingly and (possibly VPU apart) would probably have beaten them off levels anyway, and it’s difficult to find much better good ground 2.5m form anywhere in this field
After that race, his owner’s manager was reported as saying; “I think ground, rather than distance, is the key to him, as all his best performances have come on a decent surface” and his form certainly supports that view.
Of the others, Tidal Bay doesn’t jump well enough to be a serious contender round this sharp track, Herecomesthetruth has yet to show he’s good enough, and Tartak and Racing Demon have yet to show they’re out of the wilderness, so I’ll be backing Alberta’s, with Deep Purple as insurance.Meant to ask you something Reet. How come almost every big race you and I think roughly the same way? Either we’re both good judges or we’re both nuts
Guess we’ll find out this afternoon Or could it be,you have both been converted by “The King” into fans of Albertas run!Just watch him in the king George again! He cant possibly give 10lb to Tidal Bay today!!
It might just be that Fist and I are different gravy?
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I think it would be dangerous to underrate Albertas Run’s Ascot win, he beat proven gd1/gd2 horses convincingly and (possibly VPU apart) would probably have beaten them off levels anyway, and it’s difficult to find much better good ground 2.5m form anywhere in this field
After that race, his owner’s manager was reported as saying; “I think ground, rather than distance, is the key to him, as all his best performances have come on a decent surface” and his form certainly supports that view.
Of the others, Tidal Bay doesn’t jump well enough to be a serious contender round this sharp track, Herecomesthetruth has yet to show he’s good enough, and Tartak and Racing Demon have yet to show they’re out of the wilderness, so I’ll be backing Alberta’s, with Deep Purple as insurance.Meant to ask you something Reet. How come almost every big race you and I think roughly the same way? Either we’re both good judges or we’re both nuts
Guess we’ll find out this afternoon Or could it be,you have both been converted by “The King” into fans of Albertas run!Just watch him in the king George again! He cant possibly give 10lb to Tidal Bay today!!
Of course we are Reet
Your crown has just slipped round your azz Gord
Deep Purple did exactly what I said he would and Tidal Bay ran as I expected. Not only did I bet him at 6/1 I took 14.5 on betfair 5.0 for a place and got 2.52 Alberta’s Run to beat Tidal Bay…..think I can afford my own crown now so you I’ll let you keep yours Heard before the race that Tidal Bay was going to force the pace
I can’t understand what HJ is doing with him he has been messing the horse around since he won the Arkle and at Aintree…I still don’t know what distance he wants but I’m damn sure with the mistakes he makes he shouldn’t be trying to force anything. Crazy decision
I would imagine CW will set them a merry gallop here so you want a horse who travels and jumps well if you are going to have a chance of winning.
Guess we’ll find out this afternoon 
I can’t understand what HJ is doing with him he has been messing the horse around since he won the Arkle and at Aintree…I still don’t know what distance he wants but I’m damn sure with the mistakes he makes he shouldn’t be trying to force anything. Crazy decision- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.