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  • #10415
    monksfield
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    Hatton doesn’t have anything that Manny oughta be scared of.

    Except maybe those chins…….

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    Avatar photoRoddy Owen
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    I`d be frightened for Hattons health to be brutally honest. He has loads of bottle but The Pacman is dangerous.

    #213233
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    Just watched Marquez/Diaz recorded from Saturday night. What a fight.

    #213451
    Peruvian Chief
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    Pacman easily for me.

    #213501
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    Hatton is placing too much faith in the fact that he’s the heaviest fighter Pacquiao will have faced and doesn’t seem to appreciate just what he’s up against. In the early rounds against Mayweather, Ricky looked like he might just cause an upset. But as the contest progressed class shone through and before the knock-down, Floyd was playing games with him.

    I’m a huge Hatton fan, but there’s no way he can be deemed a ‘classy’ boxer. In essence he’s a street-fighter – hard-headed, will land powerful shots given the opportunity and will take a punch. But he doesn’t possess the necessary grace to beat someone like Pacquiao, who’ll dance around him for twelve rounds (if necessary) and pick shots as he likes.

    The gulf in natural ability aside, the main problem Hatton had in the build up to the Mayweather fight was the change in style. I agree that you have to adapt, to some degree, to match your opponent, but people like Ricky aren’t suited to constant alterations in focus. He reverted to his natural approach against Magic Man, but Malignaggi presented little opposition because he is, if we’re honest, all mouth. He’s made a career of winning fights in press conferences, but got little return from Hatton and was annihilated as a result.

    As I see it Hatton’s in a lose-lose situation. If he fights exactly as he did against Malignaggi, Pacquiao will destroy him. And I mean destroy. If, on the other hand, he alters his gameplan as he did against Mayweather, he’ll be drawn into a test of speed and Pacquiao has that in spades. The only hope he has is to get a little luck early on. De La Hoya didn’t trouble Pacquiao at any stage – only guile and pride got him through to the eighth round – and Ricky may be able to rock him with an early shot. If he gets in close and lands a couple of heavy body-shots, he’s got a chance. Otherwise, Pacquiao has this inside seven rounds.

    Pacquiao @ 8/15 (William Hill)
    Pacquiao in round 6 @ 20/1 (Betfred, Ladbrokes)
    Pacquiao in round 7 @ 20/1 (Blue Square)

    The most interesting match, from a betting perspective, is Amir Khan’s meeting with Marco Antonio Barrera. The Mexican may be 35 years of age, but he looks bloody good for it and I can’t believe he’s second favourite to the glass-chinned Khan.

    I have been impressed with how Khan has come along physically since the Olympics, and indeed believe he has the requisite class to have an impact on the world stage (his hand speed is frightening at times), but a fighter of Barrera’s pedigree is surely one step too far after a devastating loss last time. I’m not suggesting that he fight another no-mark, but if you lose to Stoke on Saturday you don’t want to face Manchester United on Tuesday.

    The 11/10 (or bigger) about Barrera is insane.

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    A definite contrast in styles.

    Pacquaio is much the better boxer and his stamina and technique could and should win the day – but he is not an outstanding puncher, and this is where Hatton can take advantage.

    Hatton has the power to knock Pacquaio out. Whether he will or not is another matter.

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    The 11/10 (or bigger) about Barrera is insane.

    Absolutely.

    Lee

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    Incredible isn`t it. Patriotism gone mad. Time to allocate a bit of Chelt money I think. Barrera likes our over hyped boxers

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    I must be in the minority here, but I really don’t think Amir Khan’s team would make the same mistake twice running. I don’t think Barrera is the boxer he once was and Khan’s team are well aware of this.

    I think Khan will be more cautious this time round and will have too much speed and punching power for the ageing Barrera.

    Khan to win.

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    There’s no doubt Barrera’s not the boxer he once was but he’s still head and shoulders (not literally of course) above anybody else Khan has fought previously.

    People talking of him not being a big puncher is also slightly off the mark with him having stopped over 40 of his opponents. Khan’s chin will definitely be tested.

    Lee

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    The overreaction to this ‘victory’ is quite typical.

    Yes, Khan was impressive, but forget the fact he was fighting an old man past his prime, he was fighting a guy who was unable to see for the entire duration of the fight because he had about twenty gallons of blood in eyes?

    I could understand it if a Khan punch had caused the horrendous injury (a la Lewis / Klitschko), but it was a clash of heads.

    Told us nothing about his ability to compete at a world class level.

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    Not usually one to gloat but… I told you so ! :P 8)

    I backed Khan at 3/1 to win within the distance and also doubled that stake and more for him to win outright.

    I listened to the fight on 5live and never had a moment’s concern. I always believed Khan had the natural abiltiy but that it just needed to be honed properly and channelled in the right direction.

    His confidence will be sky high after this and I don’t think there will be many willing to put their title on the line by facing him.

    Even the Don King was impressed by Khan. :shock:

    I loved Don King’s phrase "Intestinal fortitude" :lol:
    That’s "guts" to you and me. :wink:

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    Not usually one to gloat but… I told you so ! :P 8)

    I backed Khan at 3/1 to win within the distance and also doubled that stake and more for him to win outright.

    I listened to the fight on 5live and never had a moment’s concern. I always believed Khan had the natural abiltiy but that it just needed to be honed properly and channelled in the right direction.

    His confidence will be sky high after this and I don’t think there will be many willing to put their title on the line by facing him.

    Even the Don King was impressed by Khan. :shock:

    I loved Don King’s phrase "Intestinal fortitude" :lol:
    That’s "guts" to you and me. :wink:

    Himself,

    Barrera suffered the most horrendous cut I’ve seen in many years.

    He boxed just about the entire duration of the fight with it. Khan was literally fighting a short, old man with partial vision

    I could understand if Khan actually inflicted the damage with a punch, but it was a clash of heads.

    Sadly, he’s already been exposed as having a glass chin. Roach is a great trainer, but Khan will get hit hard at the very highest level and he will get KO’d by a proper puncher, like Breidis Prescott. If they meet again, the result will be the same.

    Any genuine World Champion will have no qualms about fighting Khan.

    He proved nothing on Saturday night.

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    I’d like to be able to give Amir Khan some credit for yesterday’s victory, but he was facing off against a boxer who, for the majority of the bout’s five rounds, couldn’t box. Barrera came off much the worst after an early clash of heads (not entirely unpredictable given a similar injury almost stopped him from fighting in the first place) and was effectively blind from that point on.

    Amir Khan deserves lambasting for not having been able to put him away sooner, and it’s not as though he caused the injury through a well-placed or powerful shot. I’ve often said he has the talent to make it on the world stage, but last night was a fluke (or a well executed, if deplorable, plan).

    #216986
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    Got to disagree guys, Khan was a different fighter to the one we saw before Roach. Like all British fighters they come on tons for learning the timing and defence you can only learn in the USA. I didn`t think he had a chance in this fight but I was impressed from the first minute. Khans defence was clever and effective. Yes the clash of heads had a huge effect on the fight but Barrera was still there fighting with incredible guts. I am sure that cut or no cut he would have won. Really looking forward to his next fight.

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    Khan’s defence has improved, no question about it.

    One area that Khan can’t improve upon, however, is his chin, which has already been woefully exposed at a relatively low level by boxers far from recognised as hard hitters.

    I wonder if Camp Khan will be in any hurry to fight Breidis Prescott next? I doubt it. Prescott was bigger and more powerful than Khan, and it showed. He’ll always be susceptible to fighters his own size with big, overhand punches.

    Khan has the ability to tip-toe his way to a World Title, but a superstar he ain’t.

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    I expained the reasons why I backed Khan to win this particular fight. The Freddie Roach factor also came into it.

    I wasn’t overly impressed with Khan prior to this, but I also knew that he had much to learn and much more to give – with the right guidance.

    I backed Barrera to defeat Prince Naseem Hamed, who was all hype and arrogance, but unlike him, Amir Khan has the ability to beat the best. There is definitely further improvement to come. As for his delicate chin – well, he’ll just to be extra vigilant and ultra protective on that score.

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