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The seventeen yearold daughter of Mcains running mate is pregant is going too marry the guilty party….
How long will that marrage last I wonder????
Isn’t the term Racism best reserved for the slurring of those with a different skin, whilst the slurring of ethnically similar neighbours e.g Germans better described as xenophobic Nationalism?
Both stink, whatever
Firefox is like a childish little PC sixth former who shrieks racist as soon as he struggles (which is often) with any point.
You have rolled out the tired old right wing argument that blacks are disproportionately socially disadvantaged because its somehow their own fault, whereas Asians and Jews etc are not. This is an utterly contemptible point of view, and completely ignores the inherent racism towards blacks by the ethnic minorities you have described, and the continuing legacy of slavery in the USA.
Cant you read? I said that Asians and Jews WERE discriminated against. Dont you also think that Blacks have "racist" attitudes towards other races?
Ask any Korean Shopkeeper? Heard of Louis Farrakhan?
FYI Drone i refered to the "sandal wearing Germans" as would be seen by certain american voters
Firefox doesnt even try to check even the most basic facts. Look at his comments about C Powell. Unbvelievable.
Even someone who had barely followed Am erican issues over the past 20 years would be aware of much of the following
A moderate Republican, Powell is well known for his willingness to support liberal or centrist causes.[29] He is pro-choice regarding abortion, and in favor of "reasonable" gun control.[29] He stated in his autobiography that he supports affirmative action that levels the playing field, without giving a leg up to undeserving person because of racial issues. Powell was also instrumental in the implementation of the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy.[29]
The Vietnam War had a profound effect on Powell’s views of the proper use of military force. These views are described in detail in the autobiography My American Journey. The Powell Doctrine, as the views became known, was a central component of US policy in the Gulf War (the first U.S. war in Iraq) and U.S. invasion of Afghanistan (the overthrow of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan following the events of "9/11"). The hallmark of both operations was strong international cooperation, and the use of overwhelming military force
And he has enormous difficulties with basic logic
am not promoting preferential treatment be given to blacks. I am simply arguing that the disproportionate rates of poverty in their communities be addressed and remedied
No "preferential treatment" but must "remedy" poverty in black communities.
You couldnt make it up
And this
Blacks are more than twice as likely to find themselves living in poverty in the USA than any other ethnic minority. This is a disgraceful situation, and fro you to try and make out it is insignificant of the fault of black americans is in my book racist.
Has it ever occured to you that people and groupings might just have a little bit of responsibility for their own successes/failures? Never crossed your mind?
Dont bother answering. You are out of your depth anyway
Strange from a man who in another debate kept holding up "black music" to prove a point. How terribly confised you are.
You really are beneath contempt. Pathetic
By the way, do you not have your own opinions on Powell? Clearly not. Just cut and paste somebody else’s who happens to be a Powellphile
not worth answering other than to say it was MY opinions that started the debate on powell
If you have so little understanding of poiltics as to not understand that politicians from various wings will serve under varrious adminstrations so as to ensure that their constituency is heard then its not worth debating this any further
An "uncle Tom" of the highest order
but THAT is a racial slur
and almost incredible given even a basic knowledge of his character, standing, intelligence and experience
I do not find political threads boring but
HIGHLY DANGEROUS as
one can easily drown in the invectiveI rarely write on political threads
I rarely write on political threads
I rarely write on political threadsIT HAS HOWEVER NOT ESCAPED ME
that DANGEROUS bees are
swarming over the earththe three bomber bees
have stung all that come in their pathBlar Bush Bin Laden
and to replace them a new strain
The Bumbling drone Brown,and the super bee; untested and considered stingless, Barack oBama and his running mate former stingless bee hater the lawyer Biden
who can fly in circles.I do not have 800 million
so Heather Mills is out
I do have a bunny
so I have called Glenn Close
but advised her strongly
that my bunny
prefers dangerous liasonsYou’re as backwards as any of those Southern-state, Bush-loving ‘Yanks’ that Michael Moore like to bang-on about.
There’s one thing disagreeing with what someone says and countering that point of view with another one. It’s a different matter when you resort to insults to try and discredit another poster because you don’t have anything sensible to say on the matter.
Marble
That is ridiculous. By all means answer specific points but dont throw around accusations that are meaningless
I think the first paragraph of the last post by Firefox says it all really doesnt it?
You’re as backwards as any of those Southern-state, Bush-loving ‘Yanks’ that Michael Moore like to bang-on about.
There’s one thing disagreeing with what someone says and countering that point of view with another one. It’s a different matter when you resort to insults to try and discredit another poster because you don’t have anything sensible to say on the matter.
It wasn’t a sensible reply but your inference that a number of ‘yanks’ are racist wasn’t sensible: just typical anti-US xenophobia.
This is an utterly contemptible point of view, and completely ignores the inherent racism towards blacks by the ethnic minorities you have described, and the continuing legacy of slavery in the USA.
Can you say who is racist towards black people? Who is enslaving them? Are you referring to the dreaded ‘The Man’?
In other words: who and what are you talking about? Please stop talking in vague soundbites and be explicit.
Perhaps the government should give a million dollars to all black people living in poverty and tell them to ‘do something positive with it’. Yeah… I think Farrakhan suggested that as compensation for slavery. He also said Hitler was his hero (they both hated Jewish people).
If you want to rant about racism, why don’t you look at more deserving targets like, say, the instances of ethnic cleansing in Iraq, Kenya, Zimbabwe, China? But then that’s too complicated because that would mean admitting that another race has done something wrong – does that make you racist? Do you even understand what real racism is? Hold on… breaking news… a white guy who used to star in Seinfeld has said something a bit dodgy; that’s far more important.
I work with a number of Yanks who refer to Red Indians as ‘Skin Jobs’ and call all black folk Jamal. They aren’t going to be too happy if Obama wins.
I’m as backward as them because I think it will be funny, or what?
How is that typically xenophobic? Do you even know what it means?
NWRA
I wouldnt get involved. Its the same old far left shrieking of "RACIST" at every opportunity
Incoherent at best
then that would indicate the state is deliberately disadvantaging that section of the populus.
I was going to leave this alone but the argument is knocked stone dead by two words
"Affirmative action"
The land of opportunity where any man or woman can rise to the top. The position the black population continues to find themselves in suggests this is not the case
Obama? Condi Rice? "nazi uncle tom" Colin Powell?
Oprah?
Michelle Barrack?
James Bell? (CEO of Boeing)
Too idiotic for words….
and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if your political sympathies at election time lie with the BNP.
You really havent a clue have you?
So I denounce the actions of Mugabe etc.
.. do you also denounce the policies of Mandela or hasn’t anyone pointed out to you that they are the same as Mugabe’s?
With the state of the US economy and the mess in Iraq, Bush should get hammered at the next election.
The whole rascism debate is a very European one and a load of horse dung, imo. It’s for school kids and folk that work for the council to myther over. As far as I am aware there are plenty of white trash in the US as well as disadvantaged descendants of slaves. Perhaps Affirmative Action should also include white people who can’t count and have a few teeth missing?
Agree Dave
Perhaps wondering how many black CEO’s there are in Europe and how many leading black politicans we have produced
In a final repeated answer to your question Firefox, that is a question that that community needs to ask of themselves. And they need to ask why other ethnic groups have prospered. And they also need to take inspiration from those that have succeeded instead of listening to idiots who claim that it is "impossible" to succeed because of their colour. A familiar left wing european viewpoint whcih is defeatist and stupid and simply not backed by the evidence of todays american society
America is a free market economy whose prime objective is maximising wealth. Money is blind. A free market has little to gain by suppressing the talents of any inidgenous population but also does not believe that shortcomings should be addressed by chucking unearned money around
As NWRA rightly points out, racism is a feature of totalitarian regimes both socialist and facist. There is ample evidence of that.
Finally your thinking is so backward and unsophisticated that you cannot even differentiate between the BNP and the free marketeers
America does not do ‘poverty’.
Black citizens from the Projects, are no worse-off than their white equivalent i.e the trailer-park crackers.
America has no use for either social group, because they are under-educated, and therefore unable to drive the economy forward. The only question that the American ‘machine’ asks is "Can they contribute?".
If the answer is "No" then both white and black are cast aside, to fend for themselves.
The system is biased against those who are unable to contribute – their skin colour is of zero consequence.
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