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- August 25, 2017 at 12:58 #1315519
On Battaash @ 8’s & 7’s
Hopefully he will be as good i think at some point, but deep down i think Lady Aurelia might be a little too good for him.
Always thought that Washington DC would win a big race at some point, so had a small E/W on him @ 22’s
Some race this one, and may the best horse win
August 25, 2017 at 12:59 #1315520Has Lady Aurelia travelled over for this or has she been here all summer?
August 25, 2017 at 13:28 #1315529Has Lady Aurelia travelled over for this or has she been here all summer?
Travelled over for it as far as i remember reading
August 25, 2017 at 14:04 #1315539was tempted to back Baatash but when I saw Lady Aurelia working the other day, she was so impressive it put me off that bet.
August 25, 2017 at 14:08 #1315542btw Vitamin is running at Newmarket tomorrow Jac…..

Boom……

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August 25, 2017 at 14:09 #1315544Going in on horses that are really short, which both of the two favourites here are, you have to be very confident they’ll win.
Not sure you could have that opinion here.
August 25, 2017 at 14:11 #1315546One more thing.. 6/4 joint favourites is absolute nonsense. Lady Aurelia has blitzed everything she’s run against including top sprinters who reoppose like Marsha. The only time she was beaten was over 6f when she just didn’t stay. She led by 6 lengths with a furlong to go and got beat as she just faded at the line.
Battaash is a horse I’m a fan of. But there is absolutely no way whatsoever he deserves to be joint favourite with some bookies. He’s won a group 3 and a group 2 (albeit inpressively) and suddenly he’s the same price as the quickest horse I’ve ever seen. Nonsense pricing.
The fact she was allowed to go off at 3/1 for the Kings Stand was crazy but for punters to potentially allow it to happen again where she goes off too big is bonkers in my opinion.
For me, she’s a 8/13 or 4/7 price and Battaash is then 9/4 or 5/2.
Lady A doesn’t get the credit she deserves I think.
Though if she wins brilliantly again tomorrow, everybody will say ‘wow – what a machine’ but then look to find something to beat her next time.
On all form, she’s surely an odds on poke?
For what it’s worth though, if she wasn’t in the race, I would have Battaash at something like 10/11 as I do like the horse. I just think that expecting him to give 3 lbs to a superstar and still be the same 6/4 price is crazy.
If he beats her fair and square tomorrow, I’ll come on here and admit to looking silly.
Did you read my previous post?
The “nonsense pricing” is yours MOM.

It seems the only thing that matters to your form study is whether there’s a 1, 2 or 3 on the race name, that’s “silly”. What would you have gone for if the horses were exactly the same and yet the Kings Stand was called Group 2 and King George the Group 1?“Form” is not about what the name of the race is; it’s about how horses run against each other and how reliable the form is – distances and all that… Same horses ran in the Kings Stand as in the King George, with similar distances back to the same horses. If it were just one horse to run similarly then you could argue it did not run to the same form in the King George. But it’s not one, it’s not even two, it’s three! Did all three horses that ran in the Kings Stand run equally as much below form as each other in the King George? That’s incredibly unlikely. On “form” it can almost be considered a “fact” there is very little between the two principles.

Your logic is beyond “crazy”.
Lady Aurelia beat Profitable 3 lengths in the King’s Stand.
Marsha only a head away in 3rd, call it a total of 3.1 lengths away from Lady A.
Take Cover beaten a total of just over 4 3/4 lengths by Lady A in 5th.Battaash beat Profitable 2 1/4 lengths in the King George.
Marsha beaten a total of 3 lengths by Battaash.
Take Cover was beaten a total of 3 3/4 lengths.On “form” the two should surely be separated by no more than a length?

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Both yourself and Kelleo have decided to purposely ignore the fact that Lady A was eased down drastically at Ascot
August 25, 2017 at 15:29 #1315574Both yourself and Kelleo have decided to purposely ignore the fact that Lady A was eased down drastically at Ascot
No, MOM. I don’t ignore anything when form is concerned. No, that’s not a “fact”, imo Battaash seemed to win with just as much in hand, if not more. Can see some might disagree and think Lady A had more in hand, but no way is it worth as much as you suggest.
There isn’t much between the two, unless the American horse has been pumped up, of course.
Anyway, hope both run to form and we have a top race.
Value Is EverythingAugust 25, 2017 at 15:31 #1315576Battaash getting upset behind stalls?
Value Is EverythingAugust 25, 2017 at 15:35 #1315579Gone in again, Battaash.
Value Is EverythingAugust 25, 2017 at 15:36 #1315580I’m on the LA train, come on Frankie
August 25, 2017 at 15:40 #1315582LOL at Frankie- what a mug.
Wesley Ward seems cursed in this race.
August 25, 2017 at 15:41 #1315583Epic fail by Frankie there
August 25, 2017 at 15:42 #1315584having a mare
August 25, 2017 at 15:42 #1315585What a cracker! Well done Marsha. Ward being very gracious when interviewed immediately afterwards.
August 25, 2017 at 15:43 #1315586Gutted.
I was spot on that Lady A would beat Battaash by 5 lengths but I didn’t think Marsha would improve that much.
Front two are two fantastic fillies
August 25, 2017 at 15:46 #1315591Had Frankie simply got it wrong from looking across, fair enough, but he was staring at the turf passing the post. What on earth was he thinking celebrating when he couldn’t see Marsha?
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