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There’s your story Golden Ace beats the two Irish heavyweights for Jeremy Scott
12-8 to Ireland such a dominance
RIP uk racing
I don’t know why they turn up
crisis adverted
I’m sending my horse “Quite Unique” to Jeremy ScottCharles Darwin to conquer the World
11 – 8 to Ireland even
yeh, Constitution Hill and its 10-9
not bad for 2nd rate racingright glad that’s sorted
we can go back to banging in the Irish winners tomorrow in peaceCharles Darwin to conquer the World
I would not call the Turners or Mares Novice Hurdle proper Championship events.
Protektorat is still the only British winner of a proper Championship race… And the Ryanair is the worst of them (and some would not even call it a Championship event).Handicaps are not won by the best horse, just the best handicapped horse.
Ireland has only won one handicap so far.
So the only reason Britain has 8 wins on the board is the British handicapper.The point is there is less quality to British racing and many of the Irish winners have British owners. We need to get those owners back.
Value Is EverythingAh so when Gladders said the festival is the showpiece event
its now just the championships race apart from the Ryanair, I get it now
We’re doomed, crisis not averted, batten down the hatches
game overGinger a man of your wealth could easily be an owner, you can’t take it with you
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Great day’s racing and the apocalyptic uttering of some are looking like the insular racing bubble overreaction they were.
Roll on tomorrow!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“Throughout this thread, you’ve been spectacularly patronising, Gladders.
Your point might not be the point of others – your priorities might not be the priorities of others.
Despite low prize money, they will still be just about racing at Fakenham tomorrow and all the other smaller tracks you don’t seem bothered about.
This is the area much nearer meeting the definition of a genuine crisis than a lack of British top-yard success at the top end at the Cheltenham Festival”.
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You are the “patronising” one, Chezza.
You’ve started a thread criticising Kevin and first, spectacularly missed the point the man was making…
And then criticise Gladders for making the point that Kevin made… just because it is not the point you want to focus on.
What’s the point?
Value Is EverythingThe problem is not which trainer wins or where they are based but how competitive the race is. In the last ten runnings of the Champion Hurdle 8 favourites have won, 5 at odds on.
When Peter Easterby was winning the race were many possible winners as evidenced by the outcome when the horses met at various times during the season.
OK, the British trainers had a better time of it yesterday, although the Turners looked like an average renewal.
In the day’s feature race, the first seven home are trained in Ireland. In the big three races of the week, there have only been two placed horses trained in Britain and one of those was a distance behind in third. The novice hurdles have been completely dominated by Ireland.
At least 5 of the races look certain to have Irish trained winners today, so let’s not get too carried away by the British fight back!
“What’s the point?”
The fact some have said this is an interesting thread is point enough, GT.
Of course I understand Blake’s point – but his words are just those of someone immersed in racing sensationalising a short-term event at the top of said sport.
Cycles of elite sporting domination are as old as the hills and anyway only yesterday there was a British resurgence.
As usual, the focus is on what is happening at the top of this sport which, also, let’s remind ourselves, is just a sport despite apocalyptic words which might suggest otherwise.
Yes, British racing is struggling on many levels, but it’s low prize money at the bottom, not overseas pillaging of races at the top, that is the real cause for concern.
Basing an assessment on the overall national health of a sport on what happens at the top meetings is facile, even puerile – it’s what is happening on a bread and butter day-to-day basis that matters most.
Your contemptuous comment about donkey derbys possibly betrays an elitism and myopic interest only in the sport’s elite events.
That’s your prerogative but it means your analysis and that of those like you barely scratches the surface.
For ditto anyone who judges British racing on how it does at the big meetings.
In my opinion.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’d agree with with that CAS and also agree with ginger regard the Turners and Mares Novice
However if the Irish had won those races those that are so worried about how crap the uk horses are would have used those races to show how dominate the Irish are…
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“You are the “patronising” one, Chezza.”
Ginger giving a lecture about patronising is one of the most iconic ironic posts TRF will ever witness
Pure GoldCharles Darwin to conquer the World
“… the other smaller tracks you don’t seem bothered about.”
Where did I say that?
Stop making things up.
“Seem” – it’s a perception, Gladders.
You, GT and others can be into this game on any level you wish, but the perception for me is you are only interested in what happens at the top of the sport and I judge your analysis of the health of British racing accordingly.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Your interpretation is completely wrong. It’s the very existence of national hunt racing- at all levels- that is at risk, and that concerns me.
I agree it’s at risk, but not for the reasons stated by those who seem to be judging the need for alarm on how the Prestbury Cup is going.
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