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  • #293839
    Fryern
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    One of the Stewards was interviewed on C4

    This is what he said as best I remember:-

    The result was altered as in their opinion:-

    1. The runner up lost more than a pixel (the winning distance his words) by being taken a long way left, at least half the course, by the winner and being bumped.

    2. The jockey made no attempt to correct the problem by changing his whip hand.

    Questioned further about the jockey:-

    As a result of this the jockey has been banned for 3 days.

    What if the winning distance had been more than a pixel (the word pixel was used a lot)? We don’t deal in ‘what if’s’ was the reply.

    In my opinion they made the right decision on the evidence.

    #293840
    Avatar photoMaxilon 5
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    Ironic that the word soul appears in the thread title, bearing in mind that three quarters of the thread consist of largely soulless replies.

    Here you have a man who is confined to a wheelchair by Nazis, is naturally depressed by his misfortune to the point of suicide, whose beloved wife dies three years ago and who, uniquely in my recollection,is live on camera when his plucky, unheralded filly (named after the afore-mentioned beloved but deceased wife),is disqualified in favour of a French trained favourite owned by a multi-billionaire. By British stewards.

    I won’t forget face his face. Neither will my son. Whether or not the decision is correct – and I watch racing every day and I have seen countless incidents in the past three months at Catterick, at Thirsk, at Southwell, at Wolverhampton where horses drift and interfere with no resulting disqualification – Noel Martin proves to me once again that there really is no God and if there is, he’s got favourites.

    #293848
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Moe i watched the race on C4 and online with Betfair as i do all races.It was blatantly obvious during the race that the Cecil Filly would lose it in the Stewards room,the initial reaction on the machine was only 8/13 the winner would keep it and 2/1 the French filly would get it,so i wasn"t the only one who thought the inevitable had to happen "According to our rules" obviously!

    Inevitable? Obvious? In my book that betting shows the "winner" is more likely to keep it than not.
    If that isn’t the case you should have been lumping on the odds against for the French filly getting it and laying heavily the odds on the "winner". :lol:

    You"re No shop egg Eddie! :wink: Normally the Betting would show 1/10 the winner keeping it and 7/2 a reversal.It just proves the majority knew what was coming!

    #293852
    Ardrossthegreat
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    Mr Wilson wrote …This was a complete disaster

    No, Mr Wilson. The oil spillage in America is a disaster. What you see as a complete disaster is just a minor hiccup in life’s day to day happenings.

    It was a disaster for racing. May have undone all the good work from RFC in the week.
    Yes I know rules are rules but in this case, most people will look at the finish & see very little amiss.

    This is where the RFC bollox is exactly that…..People who know racing will realise why Cecils filly got slung out. If you want to follow anything (sport or otherwise) it makes sense to me to get a background on it yourself if you need the authorities to help you then in my view you dont really want to follow it, what RFC are trying to do is just shite.
    JC had to lose the race. Queally didnt help matters by pulling his whip through.Without the interferance i think SD would have prevailed. VG run by the Cecil filly though.

    Had nothing to do with racism(what a load of tosh).

    #293857
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    What good work did RFC do last week?

    The decimal odds trial which was a total disaster?

    The marketing of the free entry week? – poor at best.

    RFC haven’t a clue what they’re doing and are just wasting racings money.

    #293863
    Avatar photoBig Bucks
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    The actual interference was minimal and the reversal absolutely awful. JQ jinked right herself due to being unhappy under a right-handed whip action.

    Once that had happened the "drift" across the track was also not marked. They came together, briefly and not seriously, once. The finish then resembled countless others in the sport where the winner has kept the race.

    A total shambles. The Stewards could not be sure. Ban the jockey for not doing his utmost to re-correct his filly after the unprompted jink. But the filly keeps the race due to the measure of doubt. Special Duty was hardly bombing forward anyway.

    Really poor.

    #293880
    runandskip
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    as soon as the placings were reversed i thought some "liberal" would come on here and claim it was a "racist" decision and sure enough they did.
    i belive it was the right decision and was suprised francome didnt see it coming.
    most of RFC is aimed at trying to make flat racing as exciting and popular as jumping…well,the events at newmarket over the weekend has done more than RFC ever could.

    #293903
    Smithy
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    Of course it was the right decision. You can’t change the rules of racing to make for a better human interest story.

    #293921
    wordfromthewise
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    Anyone who thinks that who owns the horses involved has or should have any relevance as to how the stewards apply the rules is being ridiculous IMO.

    As for all of the negative feelings and reactions here to what has been done for totally understandable reasons(whether you actually agree or not)……why don’t poeple take their lead from any or all of the protagonists in this situation, all of whom have reacted with the utmost dignity and class and the height of good grace that makes one feel proud to be a follower of this sport.

    #293932
    moehat
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    Having got to see the race again I do understand why the decision was made; different angles do show a different story. I just wish that someone would have stopped the horse from being regaled as the winner etc by realising sooner that there was such a high risk that she would be demoted. It all took too long imo.

    #293936
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    What good work did RFC do last week?

    The decimal odds trial which was a total disaster?

    The marketing of the free entry week? – poor at best.

    RFC haven’t a clue what they’re doing and are just wasting racings money.

    Free entry week a disaster eh?

    http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news … hange.html

    #293941
    jose1993
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    It would have been great had the stewards process been televised. Maybe RFC can finally get that done for us. It would have spared us a lot of nonsense broadcast by Channel 4.

    #293949
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    Special Duty was running in a straigght line before Jaqueline Quest started drifting towards her, forcing SD to drift with her. If Special Duty had been allowed to run straight she would have won. Very good decision by the stewards.

    #293954
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    What good work did RFC do last week?

    The decimal odds trial which was a total disaster?

    The marketing of the free entry week? – poor at best.

    RFC haven’t a clue what they’re doing and are just wasting racings money.

    Free entry week a disaster eh?

    http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news … hange.html

    Somewhat surprising that they think their own idea was a tremendous success eh?

    #293956
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    They claimed that the decimal odds trial as a success too but those in the know and those taking part knew it was a complete and utter failure.

    #293957
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    Can I make an ‘out there’ suggestion?

    JQ drifted & took Special Duty with her, the stewards felt that without that Special Duty would have won so they awarded her the race.

    Now, if it had been the other way round, is it not possible that the stewards would have said, ‘well Special Duty is the better horse, JQ wouldn’t have won anyway’?

    #293960
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    It’s always possible they’d have said that – in fact quite probable.

    You seldom see a result in the UK reversed when a fancied horse (say 4/1 fav) beats a lesser fancied horse (say 25/1 chance).

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