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Don’t let Joncol read that, it will spoil his conspiracy theories.
Nope, DS, it clearly hasn’t, he’s unphased!
Lol Cormack.
I must visit Joncol in that looney bin he talked about. The drugs must be fantastic down there!
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anthony mate seriously… I’m lucky for an internet forum not declaring me a troll… Jesus what a life you must live
anthony mate seriously… I’m lucky for an internet forum not declaring me a troll… Jesus what a life you must live
Yeah. Most forums wouldn’t have put up with your drivel for this long.
Although if you act like this in real life, then I’d suggest you’re a lucky man for not having been punched in the face.
At the very least, I don’t waste my time posting on a forum for a sport that, by my own admission, I have no interest in watching ever again.
So I’ve been making a mistake in my posts all afternoon, I didn’t know there had been such a gap between the incident & the first race getting underway. Apologies for that.
I still think all this talk of whether the first race should have been run or not is a bit of a sideshow. It doesn’t turn the clock back to before the incident. We should be focusing on what on earth happened in the parade ring.
Incidentally, you’re a lucky man Joncol, any other internet forum would have declared you a ‘troll’ long before now.
Anthony,
I believe part of the delay was due to only a few of the horses leaving the parade ring before the incident happened. The rest were kept in while they vets attended the stricken horses. So Kid Cassidy and others were at the start for probably a good 10 minutes before being joined by the rest of the field.
Then there was a further delay while the vet checked the horses at the start, during which Henderson withdrew Kid Cassidy as he had been to free to post & had clearly become upset. Kid Cassidy was not withdrawn because he had any signs of being electrocuted!
anthony mate seriously… I’m lucky for an internet forum not declaring me a troll… Jesus what a life you must live
This, coming from a man who wants a crime scene set up!
"Hello, emergency services. What is your emergency please?"
"TWO HORSES HAVE JUST KEELED OVER IN THE PARADE RING AT NEWBURY. GET DOWN HERE QUICK. SEND COLUMBO, OR MORSE, BUT PLEASE SEND SOMEONE SOON!"
"Sir, do you know it’s an offence to make crank 999 calls?"
Joncol is tolerated because although I disagree with his views I respect his right to air them. So long as he doesn’t abuse others in the process (and he’s come close).
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Brilliant.
Look we obviously don’t agree.
I for one won’t be spending my Sat night throwing insults backwards and forwards. I’ll let you win an internet forum argument if you want, no worries pal.
Not sure about you, but time can be spent better than that.
Brilliant.
Look we obviously don’t agree.
I for one won’t be spending my Sat night throwing insults backwards and forwards. I’ll let you win an internet forum argument if you want, no worries pal.
Not sure about you, but time can be spent better than that.
Yep, you only spent nearly 6 hours repeating the same drivel
Have a nice evening.
I think Joncol speaks more to my viewpoint that others do.
If I put myself in the position of being responsible for racing at Newbury, and I received reports that three horses had collapsed, two fatally, in the parade ring before the first race, I can’t see why I would permit racing to go ahead.
I understand their may be communication issues, I understand there is a limited window of time, I understand that vets can only do a brief analysis of the horses, but the very fact that multiple competitors in a contest collapsed and died, with no clear reason forthcoming, in an area surrounded by customers of the racecourse – I just can’t see how anyone could proceed in such circumstances.
It smacks of indifference to the health of horses, an inability to assess the severity of a situation, and an absence of responsible leadership.
I also believe that this incident will hurt horse racing in the general public’s eyes more than any event that I can remember.
A horrendous death by electrocution is something everyone can shudder at the thought of, and the response of proceeding with the first race only exacerbates that horror.
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As I say not going to throw insults back and forward.
Well done, you can win the argument if you want mate.
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I think Joncol speaks more to my viewpoint that others do.
If I put myself in the position of being responsible for racing at Newbury, and I received reports that three horses had collapsed, two fatally, in the parade ring before the first race, I can’t see why I would permit racing to go ahead.
I understand their may be communication issues, I understand that vets can only do a brief analysis of the horses, but the very fact that multiple competitors in a contest collapsed and died, with no clear reason forthcoming, in an area surrounded by customers of the racecourse – I just can’t see how anyone could proceed in such circumstances.
It smacks of indifference to the health of horses, an inability to assess the severity of a situation, and an absence of responsible leadership.
I also believe that this incident will hurt horse racing in the general public’s eyes more than event that I can remember.
A horrendous death by electrocution is something everyone can shudder at the thought of, and the response of proceeding with the first race only exacerbates that horror.
Horse racing won’t recover from this and imo doesn’t deserve to after today. Where there is doubt a risk shouldn’t be taken that puts horses and the public’s safety in doubt. There was unimaginable doubt today but yet horses where allowed to race on with the public allowed to watch them.
imo it pays to be way over cautious in these events and take nothing for granted.
It also shows a lack of respect that McCoy and Thorton were laughing away on their sprint through the car park to go to Warwick. Do you guys really need the riding fee that bad, could you not show respect for the two horses and their connections and maybe just head home and forget about racing for the day.
Hello,
Mr wilson, you didn’t know, nor did I, or herd of people’ how a hoofed animal reacts to electicity in comparison to an animal that that walks on two feet, -consider that when you tuck into staek meal dinner tonite…
regards,
doyley
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Chief official at Newbury has already stated that he couldn’t guarantee horse safety when asked by the stewards yet the first race went ahead, for that they should be ashamed.
Newbury needs a long hard look at itself and hopefully some changes will be made to the management over the coming weeks for their action, or lack of action today.
There has now been 100 posts, and pardon my ignorance, but I seem to have got lost here. Why is there such conflict?
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Anyway I’ve already said that todays attitude from officials/connections to horse safety is enough to make me turn my back on the sport(despite trying to wind Anthony up and say Im staying) so that’s exactly what I’ll be doing.
It’s a good forum but the I can’t respect the sport given the number of disgusting,imcompetent people on show today at Newbury who risk horse safety and take it for granted. A truly cruel sport.
What I am struggling to understand is why the two horses which were affected but lived were allowed to go to the start – I know one was withdrawn but the other actually raced. The following is from the BBC report of the incident:
Representing The Merry Giant’s trainer Rebecca Curtis was her partner Gearoid Costello, who said: "He’s badly traumatised and the vets are monitoring him. The horse went down on his hind legs in the paddock but went down to the start. I asked to take him out, but the vets said he was OK. However, I regret running him.
"The chain on his lead rein broke, but it wasn’t scorched."
Surely they should have automatically been withdrawn?
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