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1.11 Truss, 9.8 Sunak – little change in recent days.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Homer too true , boom and bust is the Tory way …
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I now believe that the price of gas and electricity by January may bring the government down.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Especially when all Truss has is ‘tax cuts!’. Those on the lowest incomes already pay little or none.
Precisely – to be fair the answer to this crisis simply doesn’t lie in conservatism.
The creed simply isn’t equipped for dealing with so stark a crisis at the bottom end of society.
Political dogma has its limitations on both the left and the right.
Unemployment only affects the unemployed, even a Pandemic only affects the ill and their families, but a soaring cost of living crisis affects the majority and that’s dangerous waters for this government.
The most right-wing PM since Thatcher is not the answer at this time.
Carnage beckons….
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I have seen predictions of civil unrest and I don’t think they are too wide of the mark. I’m not sure it’s odds on yet but it’s shortening rapidly.
One Nation conservatism is what the country needs.
We aren’t going to get that under Thatcherite Truss.Value Is Everything“I have seen predictions of civil unrest and I don’t think they are too wide of the mark. I’m not sure it’s odds on yet but it’s shortening rapidly.”
Civil unrest can take many forms – in the modern era it might be in the form of mass non-payment of bills and activity online as well as off it.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Fair comment Ian. Interesting, if potentially frightening, times ahead.
Ginger. Whilst you will almost certainly never catch me voting Tory, I would certainly welcome a return to a party that was somewhat more moderate. I do not like where they have been going in recent times and they appear to be getting worse. I can put up with a Major or a Cameron even if I wouldn’t vote for them.
Protest organisers can be quite clever.
Regarding organised non-payment they will argue strength lies in numbers: “If literally MILLIONS of us simultaneously cancel our direct debits, they can’t cut us all off, they can’t take us all to court, they can’t actually force any of us to have smart (cut off at source facility) meters fitted. ‘Together stronger’.”
Unthinkable in normal times, but times haven’t been normal since 2020 and they’re about to get a lot more abnormal.
If you literally can’t pay the new rate anywhere near in full anyway, why wouldn’t you join that sort of protest?
It’s a free bet.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’ve seen it suggested that non-payment of utility bills will have far reaching consequences in terms of credit scores etc in the future.
Whether this is a line being peddled by those fearful of such an action in order to keep the masses in check or has some basis in truth I’m not sure, probably a bit of both.
Interesting yet worrying times ahead.
Civil unrest can take many forms – in the modern era it might be in the form of mass non-payment of bills
The precedent being the ‘Can’t Pay Won’t Pay’ rebellion in response to the introduction of the Poll Tax (Community Charge) in 1990, which was at least partly responsible for the demise of Margaret Thatcher as PM
If these projected hefty increases in energy bills prove correct, and I see no reason for them not to be, then I think the best way to manage them will be for the government to reduce the cost at source; that is, by subsidising the energy companies with x billions rather than by doling out x billions of relief directly to the consumer
I just googled current average household UK annual energy bill and compared the number to today’s by-January 2023 £4,200 average household annual prediction.
It is set to be 2.13 times higher by then.
Anything even vaguely anywhere near the postal code for that sort of apocalyptic ballpark prediction is going to have the most appalling socio-economic ramifications.
Sunak would scarcely help at all for fear of further stoking inflation, whereas Truss’s idea of “help” is tax cuts which will only benefit big business and the more affluent in society.
And who are the two so-called “One Nation” candidates – Mordaunt and Tungendhat – backing now they’ve been eliminated?
Get this: They’re actually on The Truss Bus.
They are ALL, without exception, utter tools and simply taking off the rich, even as a one off, to help the subsistence poor literally survive is alien to every fibre of their ideology.
“I predict a riot.”
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Not by subsidising the energy companies but by taxing them more
By energy companies I mean the UK’s resident power generators such as NPower not the multinational wholesale providers of feedstock oil/gas such as BP
The subsidies I propose would be paid to the generators to offset the escalating wholesale cost of the feedstock, enabling them to keep retail cost to the consumer at a reasonable level
Strikes me as easier to implement than would be directly subsidising the consumer, which is the plan at present
Tough times ahead, whatever; and don’t forget the other imposition of increasing food prices and/or shortages
Ah- now I see what you mean. 👍
Of course, none of this would have happened if we’d invested properly in renewables over the last thirty years.
Salut A Toi said “I’ve seen it suggested that non-payment of utility bills will have far reaching consequences in terms of credit scores etc in the future.”
• If you miss a payment, the supplier will first send you a reminder. If they still don’t hear from you, they may try and visit you at home to work out the best way to pay.
• If you don’t agree to a repayment plan, they may try and force you to have a prepayment meter installed. This means you would have to pay for your energy upfront, as well as a weekly amount to cover any debt.
Your supplier must first give you a chance to pay your debt through a plan first.
• If you can’t reach an agreement with them, they can apply for a court warrant to enter your home to disconnect you. Those with smart meters could be disconnected remotely, but the energy company must first visit your home to assess your personal situation.
• Some suppliers report missed payments to credit agencies, so it is possible these could show up on your credit report.
• Not paying your bills could make it harder for you to get a mortgage, or remortgage, so it’s not advisable in the long run.
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