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July 16, 2018 at 17:03 #1360514
RHODODENDRON 6/1
Not look a strong race while AOB said it possible she go here i think in the end it be here she end up they won a group one at 1m at 2 and lockinge this year.And going back to 1m2 no problem she won group one in arc day over this trip.Ideal for race
August 1, 2018 at 19:06 #1361825I really like the chances of Wild Illusion here, having her first run on what may well turn out to be her best trip. She travelled well and came into the buckle end of the Oaks and Ribblesdale looking the winner only seemingly to have her stamina give way. She’s getting the thick end of half a stone from the older bunch who look more than beatable, although I do respect that a return to her best would see Rhododendron go very close indeed.
Wild Illusion 9/2
Saver: Rhododendron 3/1
August 1, 2018 at 23:19 #1361847Veracious is a filly I really like, hope she bolts up.
August 1, 2018 at 23:36 #1361849I backed Billsedon Brook 16’s Ante Post after her not running in the Falmouth and being routed here instead, It won’t be easy for her stepping up to 10f but she does love Goodwood and I think it could become tactical which if settling, she does have the pace if it develops into a sprint.
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August 1, 2018 at 23:54 #1361852Nathan, 16s is a fantastic price, she wasn’t 100% suited at Ascot by the way things went…i think she’s underestimated….especially considering the price of Veracious!
Veracious might improve lumps, but at the prices i’d prefer the angle where BB missed the ideal break of things.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!August 2, 2018 at 01:24 #1361861Rhododendron ran right up to her best in the Lockinge, beating yesterday’s Sussex winner Lightning Spear a short head with the pair 2 3/4 lengths clear. Surprised me she is still effective at a mile and imo there may be further improvement at today’s trip – if all is well. Disappointing 9th in Queen Anne, clearly not right and for that reason is for me only a saver @ 100/30. If we knew she’s back to her best then that price would be very good value; therefore suspect the market will tell us whether connections believe she is well and truly back.
My biggest bet is Urban Fox, improved to win the Irish Pretty Polly on first try at this trip, by 3 1/4 lengths. Having too much speed for the below form Oaks winner Forever Together. Still a good performance, with subsequent Belmont Oaks winner Athena a further 2 1/4 away. Urban Fox is in form and despite being a 4 year old is still improving/unexposed at this distance. With doubts about Rhod, 3/1 the Fox is imo more than fair with Haggas – as per normal – in good form.
Can’t quite make out why Veracious is so short? Undoubtedly the Stoute filly has potential to improve – apparently thought by connections to be not fully fit at Ascot. However, for all she was 3rd in the Coronation on only third start, was still 7 3/4 engths behind the excellent Alpha Centauri; 1 3/4 behind Threading. On form still has a lot to make up to win an average Nassau. Not certain to stay either, by Frankel out of a 7f/miler.
Billesdon Brook a further 1 3/4 lengths behind Veracious in the Coronation stakes. Well below her stand out 1000 Guineas form. If I could find a good enough reason for the poor Ascot showing I would’ve backed her here. Good record at Goodwood and fair prospects of staying 10f. By a fair stamina influence Champs Elysses out of a mare who’s by an even greater one Manduro. The dam herself seemed effective at 1m4f and Billesdon Brook seems to settle well at a mile. That Guineas form has been franked by the second Laurens winning a couple of Group 1’s (admittedly over further) in France, including Prix Diane. Third Happily has been inconsistent, but did finish close up behind Laurens in same race. Billesdon Brook beat the Guineas fourth Wild Illusion (who re-opposes here) 2 3/4 lengths.
Wild Illusion subsequently placed in Oaks and Ribblesdale (latter a better performance than generally given credit for). Beaten 4 lengths by Magic Wind, but giving 3 lbs to winner. Despite a rounded action seems effective on good-firm. Raced at 8 and 12 furlongs. Betting seems to be presuming 10 is the perfect trip – expecting improvement (needs to). But seems to me just as likely she’s fully effective from 8 to 10 and therefore exposed as just below top class.
The other runner Wilamina looks outclassed on what she’s done so far. Beaten 3 3/4 and a neck by Aljazzi and Tribute Act in the Duchess Of Cambridge. But those two came from a long way further back than her. Previously looked progressive, on penultimate start Wilamina had won the Group 3 Princess Elizabeth at undulating Epsom. Before that beat all bar Wuheida in the Group 2 Dahlia. Those at 8 1/2 and 9 furlongs. In 2017 had looked suited by 10 furlongs and although rightly the outsider of this field, it’s not inconcievable further improvement might be forthcoming and another 5 lbs progression would put her right in the mix. Every horse has a chance and 40/1 imo under-estimates hers.
Backed Urban Fox 3/1 and Wilamina 40/1 with saver on Rhododendron 100/30.
Value Is EverythingAugust 2, 2018 at 02:30 #1361864Nice price with Rhod Darren.
I was at Newmarket when Veracious won her maiden last year and had a bet when the odds were available on her for the 1000 Guineas. She ended up getting to a single figure price before annoyingly missing the race with a setback.
I thought her reappearance was very good in behind Alpha Centauri and have played her here.
Veracious @ 3/1
August 2, 2018 at 08:29 #1361874WILD ILLUSION for me looks the class act in this IMO!
Goodwood booking will be getting plenty of my hard earned at 9/2August 2, 2018 at 08:30 #1361875Oops sorry she forgot to log off and I Raymond have put this comment in her name!! She has backed Urban Fox if it is of interest lol
August 2, 2018 at 08:41 #1361877My bet was 14’s not 16’s as previously said Jack.
I wonder if William Hill will be paying out on 3 places for AP now the race is reduced to under the 8 runners. I read a few on twitter who had the 3rd in the KG with WH and didn’t get paid out because of only 7 runners.Blackbeard to conquer the World
August 2, 2018 at 10:35 #1361886I love the way Urban Fox travelled through the Pretty Polly picking up The Oaks winner with ease. Still unexposed at the trip, she’s a cracking bet at 10/3.
The only other one I’d condsider value at around 8’s is Billesdon Brook at , she handles the track and the extra 2f should suit.
August 2, 2018 at 11:00 #1361889Nathan I am pretty sure if it was bet st antepost it will be.. I think the guy who tweeted about it was probably wrong himself? He’s probs punted the night before? Didn’t read it myself so could be wrong
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!August 2, 2018 at 11:50 #1361896Actually writing it down made me change my mind, Billesdon Brook worth taking a chance @ 8/1 she’s back to form; now a main bet with UF and W. Laid half of the Rhododendron saver back at a small profit.
Value Is EverythingAugust 2, 2018 at 12:38 #1361900Good to hear GT, think she’s big myself, just hope she takes a little more prominent a position today
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!August 2, 2018 at 13:07 #1361905Billesdon Brook may not have been entirely suited by the pace at Ascot, Jack; but not entirely convinced that’s the only reason for her below par effort. This is also likely to be a stronger pace and over further too. So imo probably best to keep her to racing either mid-div or held up. Standout best remains when held up in the Guineas.
Although there’s not an out and out front runner in the field. Am hoping for the scenario of Wilamina making the running at a slowish pace. That would give her a fighting chance at massive odds. Got fingers crossed! Likes a prominent position, albeit races from 8 to 10f, if getting her own way might want a slow pace… Ditto Varacious; made the running in the Coronation at a slowish pace and slower they go the better for her. Could even be held up considering not sure to stay. However, Wild Illusion usually races close to the pace and connections know she stays 12f on soft – slowly run race at 10f won’t be to her strengths. I’d expect Buick to go on at a goodish pace on Wild Illusion from Wilamina and Varacious; Rhododendron, Billesdon Brook and Urban Fox bringing up the rear.
Value Is EverythingAugust 2, 2018 at 13:56 #1361923If you took 3 places Antepost Nathan they have to pay you 3.
August 2, 2018 at 14:12 #1361928I like Urban Fox in this . She is improving with each race and travels really well during her races , and her attitude is top notch .
Danny Tudhope gets on well with her and is a jockey on the up and up .
Hopefully the pairing will pass the post first .
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