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October 9, 2006 at 16:56 #97070
Quote: from jackane24 on 12:30 pm on Oct. 9, 2006[br]Many thanks to EW, Drone and the others that have the moral well-being to see that what Haigh wrote about was wrong and sticking up for me.
On a serious note, Jackane, clunking sentences like the above cast considerable doubt on your ability ever to realise your ambition to be a racing journalist.<br>
(Edited by guskennedy at 6:22 pm on Oct. 9, 2006)
October 9, 2006 at 17:11 #97071Jackane’s big mistake wasn’t to be so forthright in his opinion of Take and Fabre but to appear to like McCririck and "Thommo" on a forum used by Mr. Haigh.<br>Whatever you do Jackane, don’t give an opinion on cricket on here.<br>To Jackane’s credit, he doesn’t sit on the fence and I for one would miss his postings. <br>
October 9, 2006 at 17:26 #97072I’ve just read this entire thread through and I have to say it’s what makes TRF totally feckin’ brilliant.
Take a bow everyone – especially the nutters (we know who we are).
Mike
October 9, 2006 at 18:21 #97073This whole threads gone mental!
Jack, i’d be pleased if I were you. Your piece made it into the RP and to be honest, I sense a touch of jealousy..
October 9, 2006 at 18:31 #97074Quote: from Aragorn on 7:21 pm on Oct. 9, 2006[br]This whole threads gone mental!
Jack, i’d be pleased if I were you. Your piece made it into the RP and to be honest, I sense a touch of jealousy..
It got in but under the wrong circumstances for jackane!<br>No-one is any the wiser who he is and he got ridiculed!
October 9, 2006 at 18:43 #97075Quote: from thedarkknight on 6:05 pm on Oct. 9, 2006[br]
Quote: from Lingfield on 5:47 pm on Oct. 9, 2006[br]I would have thought that those blessed with the power of the press would be better employed using it to challenge more undesirable  issues in racing’s esoteric little world  than an 18 year old alleged fantasist posting on a web forum-  but which one is the easier target and less able to defend himself?<br>
Yawn
We all know that Racing Post columnists are unlikely to provide us with anything hard-hitting, challenging or interesting these days.
Given that, we may as well appreciate the odd chuckle that they occasionally induce.
Give me Paul Haigh or Clement Freud over the turgid pomposity of Brough Scott, Alistair Down and Peter Savill any day.
(Edited by thedarkknight at 6:07 pm on Oct. 9, 2006)<br>
I suppose you’re right.<br>Why should the majority on racing’s journalistic gravy train disrupt the status quo or alienate the sources of potential news stories by asking searching questions? The exception would be someone like the non RP Lydia Hislop.<br>I’m not devoid of humour but am puzzled as to why so many posters think the lampooning of Jackane was "brilliantly written". Maybe he deserved his comeuppance but the item simply reproduced his post and riduculed him- hardly high intellect journalism. It’s meant to be a national newspaper not a student rag week mag.<br>
(Edited by Lingfield at 7:47 pm on Oct. 9, 2006)
October 9, 2006 at 19:10 #97076Aside from anything else, why would the readers of the racing post want to read a harshly written anecdote about someone only maybe 50/60 readers yesterday out of how many thousand had heard of???
October 9, 2006 at 20:30 #97078Give me Paul Haigh or Clement Freud over the turgid pomposity of Brough Scott, Alistair Down and Peter Savill any day.<br>
I’d nearly agree there – except that I really can’t be done with the unfunny bitching and moaning of that miserable old git Freud in the slightest! Such an unpleasant person….
October 9, 2006 at 20:39 #97079Sir Clem when referring to a horse of his Eau Pure. ‘It’s rated 82p by timeform which is apt, because that’s my age and I do it alot.’ Made me chuckle anyway.
October 9, 2006 at 20:52 #97081Fair enough – can’t bring myself to chuckle at anything of his as my views of him are really far too offensive to go down in print….:biggrin:
October 9, 2006 at 21:04 #97083"You can’t do justice to weighty and relevant matters in the kind of cramped column-space devoted to TRF’s number one gatecrasher, so that argument falls flat on its face".
On the contrary, there is plenty of space do do justice to weighty matters. All it takes is a good journalist who knows his or her subject, can cut out the padding and get straight to the point. The likes of Bill O’Gorman, Mark Johnston when he was writing for the RP could do it, as does Lydia in The Times working often with even more limited space – to mention but a few. Some of The Sportsman’s opinion writers managed very well with extremely tight restrictions on numbers of words.
That some of the the RP’s regular writers – and I would except the bloodstock material – can’t manage it speaks volumes about the editorial management of the paper and the journalistic capabilities of some of those they employ to write.
richard
October 9, 2006 at 21:39 #97084Thommo is a very nice bloke, and whether I think he is a good presenter or not is irrelevant. And while I think Mac is hilarious in the betting ring and is fun to watch, as a person he is nothing short of disgusting.
Posted on: 10:22 pm on Oct. 3, 2006
Excuse me – other than asking Fabre for his autograph about an hour before the Arc, I didn’t talk to him. He autographed my programme, and that was it. Afterwards, or even before then, I didn’t approach him, ask him anything, nothing. I didn’t ask to sit down and have a croissant, I didn’t ask him to saddle one of his runners, I didn’t ask him what he knew about racing, I didn’t ask him ANYTHING. So quite where you have developed this little rumour from is beyond me.
My comment was based on WATCHING the BBC coverage.
Posted on: 3:25 pm on Oct. 5, 2006
October 3rd = Tuesday
October 5th = Thursday
October 8th = Sunday, the day Zorro’s piece was published
So as a matter of fact, I think my words were in fact twisted
UN – Remind me please, at what point did I say I couldn’t afford broadband? Because I’ll remind you. It was around the point I said that I had dial-up and wanted broadband, but my parents keep saying they are going to sign-up for it but in fact don’t.
Hopper – ‘This was a humorous tail-ender, delivered with zero malice (regardless of what Jackane24 thinks), and was a nice bump for TRF.’
‘And you just know he’s loving the attention.’
Oh well I’m so happy for TRF. Big thumbs up to TRF.
Loving the attention? Not quite – more hating it. I think it would take a sick man to ‘love’ this attention. Which it seems you would do.
Richard – Damn right. Take a look at last Sunday’s RP, Arc day. Page 16. Howard Wright devotes about 3 paragraphs less to his article, yet manages to report about a very important issue (Government buying the Tote), surely far more important that ‘my strange tale’.
October 9, 2006 at 21:42 #97086Just over 200 words, yes….and the other piece about wife-carrying?
October 9, 2006 at 22:01 #97087Might I say Hopper, that since you don’t know what I look like, and since you know almost nothing about me, that your assumptions about me are in fact sh*t.
As for ‘Jackane24, is your problem that the piece was fluff, or that it was fluff about you?
My guess is that it was the latter.’
Go detective Hopper! Rewind to page 3 of this thread and you’ll find what you need to work the above out…your attempts to patronise me, while I’m sure amusing for some ‘older’ members of this board, are actually quite pathetic.
October 9, 2006 at 22:15 #97088I was responding to your ‘personal insults’, in much the same way one would hit back if someone punched them.
I don’t seem to remember insulting Zorro in any way prior to this ‘article’ being written. Yet he still insults me….
(Edited by jackane24 at 11:16 pm on Oct. 9, 2006)
October 9, 2006 at 22:19 #97089Quote: from jackane24 on 10:39 pm on Oct. 9, 2006[br]UN – Remind me please, at what point did I say I couldn’t afford broadband? Because I’ll remind you. It was around the point I said that I had dial-up and wanted broadband, but my parents keep saying they are going to sign-up for it but in fact don’t
I thought it was a student issue ;) better things to spend your money on, my mistake.
October 9, 2006 at 22:25 #97090Oh my God!
I’ve read 10 pages of a thread on ‘The Racing Forum’ and I can’t remember a discussion about any horse!
I don’t buy the RP for a 200 word article, I doubt many of us do, so why the fuss?
Surely we come on here for what we believe to be weighty debates? I don’t read the RP for them, I for one learn more about the sport’s current affairs here than the RP can ever tell me.
Jackane, as upset as you are the milk has been split, and you probably had a far better day at the Arc than anyone here. Get over the article.
Zorro can call me a b*stard in the RP everyday of the week if perchance I meet D. Wayne Lukas at the Breeders Cup!<br>
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